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Old 06-02-2012, 10:12 AM   #11
 
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What's in the tank? Neon tetra, some sort of shark that will probably reach a foot, looks like a pair of Bala? A dwarf gourami, what's the last thing? Looks like a single tail goldfish to me, which will also reach over a foot if it makes it. None of these fish are compatible, minus the gourami and tetra, which both need tanks with dense cover. They aren't cave fish like cichlids, they need full cover. They won't use a cave for comfort, it's simply unnatural for them to do so.
Whoever built this tank doesn't know a lot about fish.
I am a sucker for a good themed tank but this just doesn't seem well thought out.
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And I posted prodding the people who made it to research their animals. Still waiting on the post to be "Approved". I highly suggest you go do the same pointing out what you posted here.

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Old 06-02-2012, 11:53 AM   #12
 
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Omg people ! It's a fun themed tank , it's not suppose to cause aI full blown riot ! Whatever tank we keep our fish in its never going to be a natural environment ! The fact we keep them in glass for a start .... But that's another story !
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:41 PM   #13
 
Totally agree stevenjohn21! I liked it, my husband has an arcade in our dinning room so we both thought it was neat. He even posted it in his arcade forum :0) It was fun and people have the right to put whatever they want to in their tanks and nit picking them over it on a forum will not change what some people do to their tanks or the fish they put in it. Lighten up and see the fun in it people!
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #14
 
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Wow, Abbeys dad harsh!!! I have a sunken ship in my tank and I think it looks really nice, its all coved in algae and the fish love eating off it and hiding in it.. and it has a Moai statue theme with the ship!
I agree! I have a sunken ship in one of my shrimp tanks, and i think its great! My shrimps look huge crawling around in it. Im trying to grow java moss on it, and suspend it in the tank, so theres another level for the shrimps to play on.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:54 PM   #15
 
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Omg people ! It's a fun themed tank , it's not suppose to cause aI full blown riot ! Whatever tank we keep our fish in its never going to be a natural environment ! The fact we keep them in glass for a start .... But that's another story !
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Themed tank or not people have a responsibility to the animals the keep. These are pets not decorations! If this person can clearly take that much time to hand-paint legos (and the paint may or may not even be fish safe to begin with) he has time to sit and research the animals he puts in.

It's this kind of behavior the reinforces bad fish keeping, and treating fish as little more than decoration.
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #16
 
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There's a difference between an unrealistic tank that can accommodate fish properly and an unrealistic tank that is just stressful to all inhabitants..
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:35 PM   #17
 
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Unrealistic ? you think the fish can tell thats Mario and his castle ? as apose to a rock and slate caves ? IMO fish dont care unless its something that they can hide and feel safe around. Most people decorate the tank to accomodate their own taste anyway, not for the fishes well being. People that keep Discus often have a bare bottom tank to make cleaning easier with 2-3 sponge filters bubbling away.......how very natural !!!! But somehow they manage to survive, breed and have healthy fry. How many of us own black water/amazon type species and actually have tea colored water ? Not many because we dont like "dirty" water, and for our viewing purpose we want it clean and sparklly.
We dont know if those fish are permanently kept in that tank, we dont know if thats a fun quarantine tank, we dont even know if they are real fish....maybe photoshopped ! Bottom line mario is the same as a bubbling diver, castle is a sunken ship, green pots are terracotta pots.....all which have entered our tanks at some point........did your fish survive ?
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:41 PM   #18
 
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Like I already said, caves are unpractical with the species on display in this tank...
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:13 AM   #19
 
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Totally agree stevenjohn21! I liked it, my husband has an arcade in our dinning room so we both thought it was neat. He even posted it in his arcade forum :0) It was fun and people have the right to put whatever they want to in their tanks and nit picking them over it on a forum will not change what some people do to their tanks or the fish they put in it. Lighten up and see the fun in it people!
All the arguments going in here have been covered in other threads recently, and IMO nobody can truly with a clear conscience point fingers at any other fish keeper in regard to what may or may not cause their fish/fishes stress, as it is covered in depth in Byron's article on stress on this site, almost everything we do whether we are dedicated true biotope aquarists, or ornaments and multicoloured gravel people, will in some way cause the fish stress, it is impossible to avoid.

The vey fact we have fish in the first place causes major stress, the methods of mass breeding, and long haul transportation to get into the tanks at our local fish store must be awful for them to begin with, over crowded display tanks, constant netting going on, poor tank maintenance, bright lights, etc etc. then we chose a fish/fishes, net them, slosh them about in a small bag, take them home, net them again and add them to our tanks, the majority of time into water that does not have the correct level of parameters as to what their species has evolved to thrive in, etc... at this point, whether it is going into a blackwater biotope or a tank full of super mario figures is probably irrelevant to the fish....

I must pick up on the comment about nit picking on forums, this is something that is bound to happen, and is actually a healthy thing IMO, there was recently a post by someone that asked for advice, he didn't like the advice given and got defensive about it... but rightly so, the experienced fish keepers on this site immediately picked up on a ton of red flags in his post, about incompatible fish, size of tank etc. The point is, this negative feedback, isn't a personal attack, but an attempt to educate the poster, and if not them, then others who might be reading that post in a public forum. This must happen, other wise what is the point?

What does need paying attention to as some other members have mentioned is the compatibility of certain fish species, and the tank size requirements for the fish we choose. This is something that seems to be woefully over looked by a huge number of inexperienced or just down right ignorant fish keepers. I stumbled across a video on youtube recently where someone was asking about behaviour of his Oscar fish... I will post the link here

http://youtu.be/CJV-8FnnUF0

I am sure no explanation is necessary.... 40gallon tank, 1 LARGE oscar, another smaller one, and what the hell that huge shark is at the bottom of the tank who knows? but all in all what a train wreck of a fish tank! it only takes a second to look at a profile of the fish you want to keep on one of these forums/websites. In the profile on here it says 1 oscar needs to be in a 75g tank, that dude has 2 in a 40g, plus jaws on the substrate, no wonder the fish is freaking out! and that is what it is doing. Do we feel satisfied that we're doing a good job for our chosen pet/s by being this ignorant? Could any of you sit and look at that? I know I couldn't.

My point is there are certain requirements that a fish needs, these things need to be met for the overall well being of the fish, In reality they don't, if we chose not to.... and if the fish dies, oh well off to the store to pick another lucky soul to go into our garish, often incompatible and undersized tanks..

The fish keeping arena is a minefield, that will never be totally in the best interests of the fishes... all we can do is try our best. or don't try at all, and leave the fish where they are.

For the record, I actually agree with AbbeysDad's point of view, but in the defence of those who appeared to be offended, in such an open forum we are bound to come across all kinds of fish keepers and I guess voicing such a strong opinion is bound to be met with defence... Lets all just get along folks

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:14 AM   #20
 
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But in this instance, the OP just shared a link of a creative person's tank that they found randomly on the web.

If he had posted it here looking for stocking suggestions, then I can understand the negative feedback. So the nit picky comments in this instance are kind of moot points aren't they?
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