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Suitable fish to co exist with a Betta Plakat?
Old 11-15-2012, 10:25 AM   #1
 
Suitable fish to co exist with a Betta Plakat?

I've heard various coloured Neon Tetras, Corys, and smaller species of Plec work.

Are there any other fish that are plausible to co exist with such a fish?

- Asking this question on behalf of a friend.
(Their tank is heavily planted and has no fish in it at the moment, it is also quite a large tank to keep such a small fish in (The Betta), if I remember right its about 130 litres. As he has a similar one to mine)

On behalf of my friend, and from me, thank you.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:16 PM   #2
 
The fish that work with bettas is as following with this chart
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:55 PM   #3
 
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Normally, I wouldn't recommend a betta having any fish for tank mates for fear of the betta's fins being nipped. The Plakat seems to be a horse of a different color. I would fear for the safety of fish that inhabited the same swimming zone as a Plakat. Accordingly, the corys or loaches could work out. I agree that such a tank is rather large for a betta.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:13 PM   #4
 
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Normally, I wouldn't recommend a betta having any fish for tank mates for fear of the betta's fins being nipped. The Plakat seems to be a horse of a different color. I would fear for the safety of fish that inhabited the same swimming zone as a Plakat. Accordingly, the corys or loaches could work out. I agree that such a tank is rather large for a betta.
Bettas have different temperaments depending upon the individual. Some won't tolerate sharing. Others are happy to share so long as they are given enough space. I disagree that that tank is "large" for a betta. Bettas are not fish that should just be crammed into small quarters because that's the popular sentiment that people often are only willing to give the poor things.

As for the OP, if your friend is intent on keeping the betta with other fish she needs to start with just a few. A small not too colorful schooling fish would be appropriate such as rasboras, and tetras with calmer temperments.

I started with a small school of rasbora in 20 gallon, and when my betta was willing to put up with that I added to the school. All fish co-exist happily and I have not had any injuries what so ever. Having a well planted tank is good for this because it breaks up line of sight.

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Old 11-16-2012, 03:56 AM   #5
 
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[quote=Sanguinefox;1311920]Bettas have different temperaments depending upon the individual. Some won't tolerate sharing. Others are happy to share so long as they are given enough space. I disagree that that tank is "large" for a betta. Bettas are not fish that should just be crammed into small quarters because that's the popular sentiment that people often are only willing to give the poor things.

Just my personal feelings toward building a 30 gallon tank around a betta. I don't think bettas should be crammed into small containers either. Also, I read that Plakats are generally more aggressive than other bettas.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:12 AM   #6
 
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Bettas have different temperaments depending upon the individual. Some won't tolerate sharing. Others are happy to share so long as they are given enough space. I disagree that that tank is "large" for a betta. Bettas are not fish that should just be crammed into small quarters because that's the popular sentiment that people often are only willing to give the poor things.

Just my personal feelings toward building a 30 gallon tank around a betta. I don't think bettas should be crammed into small containers either. Also, I read that Plakats are generally more aggressive than other bettas.
Your personal feelings don't really play into the matter. Just because YOU wouldn't use a tank that size for a Betta doesn't mean much here. The fish can do well in the stated size. They are also one of the more active betta and thus really should have more space.

Again given enough space it's safe to try a few smaller non colorful species so long as you only get a few, and you are ready to spent time watching and intervene if it gets ugly. Again having a planted effect is great here because it breaks up Line Of Sight. Another option here is to go with something bigger than the fish but not able to eat it. Smaller pleco species may do well here because they are tough enough that a betta cannot do much.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:29 PM   #7
 
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Your personal feelings don't really play into the matter. Just because YOU wouldn't use a tank that size for a Betta doesn't mean much here. The fish can do well in the stated size. They are also one of the more active betta and thus really should have more space.

Again given enough space it's safe to try a few smaller non colorful species so long as you only get a few, and you are ready to spent time watching and intervene if it gets ugly. Again having a planted effect is great here because it breaks up Line Of Sight. Another option here is to go with something bigger than the fish but not able to eat it. Smaller pleco species may do well here because they are tough enough that a betta cannot do much.
From what I understand, everyone's opinion counts on the site, unless they are abusive or offensive in some way. Your response comes close to fulfilling one of the mentioned exceptions. The OP brought up the issue of tank size and I gave my opinion...that's OK. I researched the Plakat and learned that it might be aggressive and suggested some fish that could work...that's OK.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:01 PM   #8
 
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I think that's a fine size for a betta. Plakats are much more active than the long fins, and in my experience much less aggressive (unless you bought. I kept a plakat in a 29 gal tank with a small shoal of kuhli loaches and they got along just fine. Tank wasn't nearly as heavily planted as I want, but everyone had enough refuges that there was no aggression. Smaller pleco like bristlenose would be neat to try. Provide them with caves and they will have more than enough refuge. You might be able to have a trio of two females and male in there and get them to breed.

If you wanted to try some shoaling fish, then some of the not-so colorful tetra would be nice. Pristella tetra are the first that come to mind. Glowlight tetra are probably mute enough that they would be fine. Black neon tetra, too. Things you will want to avoid are fish like gourami and cichlids. Both are territorial like betta. Some of the larger and more boisterous fish like black skirt tetra and zebra danio wouldn't be a good fit either.

And as to that chart that was posted, I would NOT try betta with angelfish as angelfish are cichlids and can be aggressive. I can see both fish coming out of that tank with rather torn fins.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
 
Granted mine is by himself right now (nothing to do with fighting) but he has been with cherry barbs, bumblebee cats (Africa or SA), rainbow shark, peacock eel, and snails.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:45 PM   #10
 
[quote=And as to that chart that was posted, I would NOT try betta with angelfish as angelfish are cichlids and can be aggressive. I can see both fish coming out of that tank with rather torn fins.[/quote]
The chart says caution required which means they may or may not since it will depend on the individuals!!!!

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