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Suggestions for 5 gall fresh???
Old 04-25-2007, 11:39 AM   #11
 
not a good idea ... personally id put in a betta and a group of 5 dwarf frogs ... u could get away with not filter because ther all air breathers.

or a shoal of 6 of ur favourite pigmy cories if u want it planted.

or 3 khuli loached and a betta

and finally id put in a pair of threadfin rainbows ... stay smallish (2") and dont move to much
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #12
 
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Which one do you have? The hex, bowfront or corner model?
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:37 PM   #13
 
Thanks everyone for your help!

I think I'm going to go with 2 kuhli loaches, a betta, and an african frog. Lots of variety for a small tank.

I've heard conflicting info on the ADF and loaches though. The local shop here say they'll be fine together (and this is actually a decent shop not a 'fish-mill') but I've also read that they could potentially fight for territory. Any idea if it were to help if I tried to build a couple of levels?

Heh, another stupid question, I read somewhere that betta's only like about 6 inches of water depth. Mine did tend to stay closer to the bottom of his bowl (gallon bowl wider than it was high). Was he just lazy, sick, bored (didn't seem to happen near as much when I had the snail in with him) or is the depth of a 5 gallon going to cause any problems? (He lived for 2 years and was full grown when I got him, only illness I ever treated himor was constipation and a little green pea fixed that right up).

Thanks again..... OK shutting up now.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:38 PM   #14
 
Neither, just a normal rectangular one. (haven't yet taken it out of the box - possibly a SLIGHT bow to the front)
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:41 PM   #15
 
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You could get away without a filter, but it wouldn't be the best environment for them. I am speaking just about the betta here as I know nothing about frogs. Filters are good for fish because yes they can increase oxygen flow, but they also keep the water cleaner and harbour a lot of beneficial bacteria leading to a healthier tank long-term. It's fine to get fish, or creatures and put them into a situation where they won't die, but really, IMHO, we are bringing these animals into our homes - they haven't asked to be put there, and if we don't put them in an environment in which they will thrive and be happy, then we are doing them a gross injustice.

It is up to you what you choose but my recommendations are:

a betta (on his/her own in a 5g he/she would be beautiful and very happy)

or

a trio of male guppies

Good luck whatever you choose.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:44 PM   #16
 
Hi, I'm sorry if I mis-stated something. My tank has a filter, light, etc. Exactly what kind I'm not sure. Haven't set it up yet, but I think its at least a 3-stage biological- not sure if there is more too it or not. Its the Eclipse 5 gall tank.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:49 PM   #17
 
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I wasn't suggesting that you wouldn't provide a filter, just responding to a suggestion that you wouldn't need one. :)
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:51 PM   #18
 
You said:

It's fine to get fish, or creatures and put them into a situation where they won't die, but really, IMHO, we are bringing these animals into our homes - they haven't asked to be put there, and if we don't put them in an environment in which they will thrive and be happy, then we are doing them a gross injustice.

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I couldn't agree more! I am much more an animal person than a people-person. I have two cats, a boxer puppy, have had a tarantula, a corn snake, and two breaded dragons.

If I ask a lot of stupid questions its because I am in the research phase and want only the best for my animals (more family than pets). I've read everything I could online narrowing down my choices and wanted some 'face-to-face' feedback from people that aren't trying to sell me anything.

trust me I am not one of those people that run out and get a pet 'because its cute' or 'its easter I want a pink chick' or 'well, I just loved Finding Nemo so much I had to have a clown fish.'

I want to do what's right by any pet I have.

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Old 04-25-2007, 01:51 PM   #19
 
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Yah, best of luck. Make sure to cycle your tank before adding the loaches and the frogs though. Both are very sensitive to ammonia and won't fair well if used to cycle the tank.

I can see the loaches fighting with the frog or visa versa. Both want the bottom and they will have limited space at best. Maybe a fine substrate, as small a rocks as you can find will help the loaches be less aggresive and make sure it is a "soft" substrate as the loaches like to bury themselves. A standard river run gravel sorted out for the smaller rocks should work well, maybe a mix from BB sized up to a small pea size could work well. Soft meaning no sharp edges like the standard aquarium gravel can have. The Kuhlis my LFS has are kept in river run gravel to protect them from injury. Sand might work also but I have never used it so I can't help with it's use.

Let us know how it works. Will be interesting to hear about the interaction of the different critters you have chosen for your tank.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:52 PM   #20
 
Oh, misread your filter comment, sorry. I appreciate it, but not using a filter makes me a bit nervous.
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