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Suggestions for 300 gallon tank?
Old 04-09-2010, 05:07 AM   #11
 
Good luck on setting up the new aquarium.
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:35 PM   #12
 
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Java moss is a tropical plant, and you have the intention of growing it in a coldwater tank. The java moss may live, but most likely it will die. Perchance you would consider hornwort?
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:45 PM   #13
 
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Java moss is a tropical plant, and you have the intention of growing it in a coldwater tank. The java moss may live, but most likely it will die. Perchance you would consider hornwort?

The java moss is just one of the things I've seen that's supposed to be hard to kill.

I don't really have a preferance on the plants, easy to care for and not expensive are my only two desires really.

I'm still waiting to hear back on the tank, and if I do get it, there'll be the big process of cleaning everything really well, selling/trading and so on the stuff I can't use for stuff I can use, then I'll probably be fishless cycling it, so if all does work out and I do end up with this amazing tank, it'll still be awhile before it's too late to decide on plants.

Just looked up a few pictures, and hornwort does look really cool, so I definitely wouldn't mind having some of that in the tank, but like I said, everything's still highly debatable... except for three of it's inhabitants lol.

Hopefully I hear about it soon, so i can start a little more indepth planning, and finding out what exactly will be with it.

But as for right now, I've at least got it pegged to playsand for a substrate, the three goldfish and probably a few more, possibly weather loaches in the future, and rocks/slate/plants/anything else cheap and suitable for the tank, since I haven't really seen any tank decor I didn't like, and I don't really think a 60 dollar pirate ship or fish house looks any better than five dollars worth of rubble.
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Old 04-10-2010, 01:51 AM   #14
 
Looking quite hopeful right now, was just told a little while ago that they are bringing the sharks to an aquarium tomorrow, and he is even willing to bring the tank to me tomorrow.

I'm still kind of in awe at the thought of someone giving me a free tank above 10 gallons, let alone bring it to me, so I'm still banking on this falling through, but if it does work, which is seems like it will, it's going to be in my opinion the coolest goldfish tank in at least my town.

Still going to clean it thoroughly(without soaps and chemicals) see about using what I can/trading what I can't for what i can, and doing a fishless cycle, so it'll still be awhile before it's all set up and established, but I'll probably post some pictures during the process, and definitely after.

Once the tanks established it'll only be the three goldfish for a little while, and I know it's probably a stupid question, but would a few tiny goldfish be overwhelmed or something by having so much space?

I won't be putting them in there without lots and lots of places to hide, and the tank established so I'm not worried about that part, but I'm just not sure if 300 gallons would be overwhelming for three tiny fish until i get a few more.
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:10 AM   #15
 
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You never mentioned that this monster was FREE. Or perhaps you did and I just repressed the memory out of jealousy. Can I have this person's contact info? I will gladly offer them a nice, crisp Alexander Hamilton for it, haha.

I don't think you need to worry about them being "overwhelmed." They'll look small in that big tank but with that much space and a good diet they should start growing pretty quickly.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:22 AM   #16
 
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You never mentioned that this monster was FREE. Or perhaps you did and I just repressed the memory out of jealousy. Can I have this person's contact info? I will gladly offer them a nice, crisp Alexander Hamilton for it, haha.

I don't think you need to worry about them being "overwhelmed." They'll look small in that big tank but with that much space and a good diet they should start growing pretty quickly.
I may or may not have mentioned it... I may have repressed mentioning it was free for fear of being booted by jealous mods =P

I got a text this morning saying they were on their way to the aquarium with the sharks, so this really may happen. I still don't know it's dimensions, but so far at the stores the only monstrous tanks I've seen were 200 and under, so I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

I've seen alot of mixed thoughts on goldfish, and it seems like alot of people frown on the thought of keeping them in anything other than a pond to live out their adult lives, but would a 300 gallon still not be a suitable life-long home for them? It seems like they'll probably have more than enough room in any direction for how big I'm expecting them to get.

Any clue the expected size of two comets and a common?
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:40 AM   #17
 
Now you did made me jealous for your tank being free. Enjoy it and i am sure whatever you do with it will be fine. Do not forget to post pictures.
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:24 PM   #18
 
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They can get up to two feet, but if this tank was being used to house sharks I suspect that it's probably not very tall but long and wide, which would be perfect. 300g should definitely be enough for them volume-wise and if the tank has the dimensions I suspect it does it should be ok for them even as adults. They can grow up to two feet as adults but around 18" is more likely so as long as the minimum dimension is about 24" you should be fine.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:56 PM   #19
 
Well, there have been a few bumps along the road, they brought the sharks to one aquarium, unfortuntely they didn't want them, and one died in transit, but I guess they sold the other one on monday, and if all goes well I'll be having a three hundred gallon tank dropped off tomorrow afternoon!

I have been thinking alot about some different things with this project, and I was wondering if having my three goldfish in the ten gallon tank for the roughly 1 to 1 and a half months would have any longterm negative effects on them, stunting them or anything like that?
They seem to have grown a decent amount since I initially got them, and they're still under four inches, but I'm just nervous of whether I caused them any serious problems in the future.

Once I get the tank I'm assuming it'll be a big task cleaning everything very well, since it has been a saltwater tank, and then I need to get the decor(still looking for cheap slate and rocks mostly, then maybe some hornwort, and some digging for more good cold freshwater plants)

After all is decorated, I really want to do a fishless cycle so i can know it's cycled properly, then I'll be adding the three goldfish I have, and I've been looking into some new tankmates.

I want to get a few more goldfish, and the healthiest ones I've been seeing are about 4-6 inches, so I plan on waiting until my goldies are in the same size range, and I've also been poking at the dragon goby's they have. I believe they said they were violet goby's, and when I asked they said they come from a breeder, are entirely bred and raised in captivity in freshwater, so I'm hoping they should be okay without the brackish water, I only want one or maybe two of them, I've been toying with the idea of freshwater clams, since I saw some cheap on ebay, and it seems like they would help keeping my sand stirred up(even though I plan on stirring it with my regular pwc's) but I couldn't find much on keeping the clams with the other fish, and it almost seems like I might need to keep the water at a different hardness for them to do well.

Lastly my mom insists she would love some dwarf frogs since I mentioned something about them along time ago, and I'm not sure if the ones at my lfs are the african dwarf frogs, or the african clawed frogs, or albino, or what, and I've seen mixed reviews around saying that one is okay, but one is deadly to the fish, so I need to find out if they would be okay, and was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for aquatic frogs that would live well with the tank of goldfish, and possibly violet goby's and clams.


The only things set in stone for the tank are that it's going to have goldfish, and it's going to have playsand as the substrate, so any suggestions on what would be good combinations between all the species I mentioned, or even ones that I didn't mention(like cloud minnows which I'm worried about the goldies eating when they get bigger) are greatly appreciated!

I screwed up once when I got my goldfish a month or so ago, so I'd really love to be able to do this as right as I can!


And I'll keep you all posted on how things go with getting the tank are not, but from the sounds of it he has it loaded up on his truck, and him and a friend are going to swing by on his lunch break tomorrow, so I'm really keeping my fingers crossed on this all working out. I'll take a picture of the bare tank and post it in here as soon as I have it if it arrives!
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:10 AM   #20
 
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I really don't think the gobies would work with goldfish. They need higher temperatures, brackish water and can be picky eaters, sometimes only eating live or frozen foods. Goldfish, as you probably know by now, are little pigs which would make it very difficult to get any food to the gobies.

As for frogs, the clawed frogs will eat other fish but they only get about as big around as a baseball or so so they wouldn't be able to eat large goldfish. I think they'd probably be generally safe with goldfish once your fish are big enough. The dwarf frogs stay awfully tiny and are also pokey eaters, plus they're so small that adult goldfish might eat them. My aunt actually has some ~6" common goldfish living with clawed frogs and they seem to get along fine.

I'll have to let other people suggest other species that would do well with large goldies at lower temperatures (I assume the tank will be upper sixties to low seventies?).
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