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Stocking suggestions for 180G
Old 01-09-2010, 11:46 PM   #11
 
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Young Boesemani can be kind of drab looking. But trust me, they turn into a gorgeous fish. Here's a couple pics of mine:

they look great!!!! i think ill get a schoal of them instead of gouramis.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:41 AM   #12
 
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I generally feed all my fish a wide mixture of various frozen foods, veggy's, pellets (dep on fish size) and sometimes flakes. The Boseman's LOVE frozen shrimp & Bloodworm a LOT.
I can't help you on the flourite stuff for the cory's, if it has sharp edges its not good for them; if the edges are more rounded its ok.
The Hard water had nothig to do with the Sword die, I had Sword in water that had a GH 10-12 and now in water that has no hardness and both grow wild. The red leaf one (like in the 55g Rainbows tank up front) that's a Red Tiger Lotus, I love this plant

Plants need balance in tanks to thrive: This means CO2 (from fish) - Nutrition (mostly from liquid ferts) - And good light (proper wattage and full spectrum).
If one of this is not balanced properly eg no fish in the tank no CO2 but you add a bunch of liquid ferts your plants won't thrive. Or if you have a good stock of fish there (good CO2 level) and good amount 1x liquid ferts but your lights are super low watt (far below 1wpg) or a poor spectrum eg red only then also the plants won't thrive.
Most common issue in planted tanks why they do not thrive is either not enough nutrition or wrong spectrum of lights.
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:11 AM   #13
 
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here are some pictures of my 55g:

not sure what this plant is but it grows great.


here is some anubias attached to river rocks:


here is the sword that stopped growing:


bamboo, hornwort, and some others i have forgotten:


more hornwort:


hornwort grows good for me:
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:16 AM   #14
 
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Here are some pics of my 75g:

anubias on driftwood, bamboo, and some kinda mossball:


java moss seeded on log:


java moss on cocconut shell:


more pics:


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Old 01-10-2010, 10:25 AM   #15
 
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on the 55g i was using twin 4' flourescent bulbs (i used the ones made for plants floraglo aquaglo or something). now i am using 2 compact flourescent bulbs in the custom canopy.

the 75g has 2 compact flourescent bulbs and 1 4' flourescent plant bulb. but it doesnt seem like the light disperses enough. i think the prob is that the comp. fixtures are too close to the water. i am currently building a canopy for the tank. current plan is to just run 2 compact flourescent bulbs in it, but they will be 5' above the tank with no glass cover. hopefully that will help.
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:49 AM   #16
 
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That very first pictures with all the platy on the big plant: That's a Sword
Nice pictures btw, many nice plants there
Your 3rd picture "the sword that stopped growing" that's a Crypt looks like a nutrition deficit to me, specially also seeing the green spot alage. What fert are you using there?
Your hornwort sure IS taking over the tank lol.

Yea uhm the "flora" glo is actually not a very ideal spectrum for the plants. What do you have in your DYI hood there now? I found that full spectrum daylights around 6500K works best for my tanks, that's what the larger one's of my aquariums all have, 4ft'ers daylight avg around ~1wpg.

That's what I did on the New 55g, the pictures you see here under my "aquarium" tap to the left, I built the hood and stand myself, added a shop light strip with 2x 4ft daylights and just now uploaded some new pictures too. Looking at pictures from the set up in Nov till newst pic now, wow stuff grew more then I thought it did lol

If I can be of any help on DYI ideas, plant IDs or lighting, please let me know (I don't wanna write a book here unless its info you're actually after lol)
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:17 AM   #17
 
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i have seachems entire fert. line i was using on the 55g, but it didnt seem to make any diff. so i stopped dosing. all the plants in the 55g are going to be relocated into the 180. so ill have to see how they do there.

Hmm i thought the narrow long leaves were the swords.......oh well, what do i know

the green spot has been there since day 1. at least the bristles like it. they basically live on the swords leafs.

the 75g had brown alagae, but once i added the plants and bristles it went away.

i am still in planning phase for the 75g canopy. i work in a machine shop so i have access to aluminum sheet.
the one issue i found is that a 4' light strip will not fit into a 4' canopy, not with a frame anyway. thats why i went with the compact flourescents.

the 75 canopy wont have a frame just 1 piece of sheet bent to form the outer skin. so i could fit 4' strips in there, but i was planning on using the higher lumens of the compact flourescents instead.
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:33 AM   #18
 
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There's an imbalance like I tried to explain somewhere earlier: Your weekly ferts PLUS proper lights PLUS proper CO2 fish has to be all in balance for plants to thrive, if one of these factors is not balanced right with the other 2 you'll see the problem you have.
We can excl nutrition there if you say you used to dose weekly and it didn't change anything. I'll also excl lack CO2 judging from the picture with the amount platy there. Which does leave your light in question.
Do you only have a single 4ft tube of this "flora glo" there? What lights did you get for the new tank?

Just so we can be sure we're all talking about the same pictures/ plants:
These are Cypts: Cryptocorynes
These are Swords: Swords

Algae generally occurs when something (again sorry) is out of balance in the tank. So if you eleimiate the factor causing some of your plants not to thrive well, you'll surly also get rid of the alage (trust me I just battled my first ever hardcore algae attack in the new 55g with like 5 diff ugly algae types).

There's tons DYI way's you can go about this for either tank. My 4ft shoo light strip with its 2 bulbs sits RIGHT on the plastic frame that's on the 55g, I built a thin wood frame all around it (see pictures under aquariums).
Alternatively if you have a glass top and just want something to "hold" lights; you can use a gutter (See this thread bottom of page adventures in budget DIY lighting) Or you can bend whatever shape & size you want to have out of flashing yourself....options are endless. You may wanna browse throught the lighting DYI thread there, plenty of ideas to see there.
What bulb or tube you add there is secondary, whatever you can work with best. What REALLY matters is that whatever bulbs/ tubes you buy to ensure they're full spectrum lamps, a Kelvin rating between 5-6500K (see small print on packages) and right around 1wpg; if you go to Wal-Mart, Lowes, Homedepot you can find these labeled as "Daylights or Ultimate Daylights" by GE, Phillips, Salvinia (sp?). I have these as small tubular screw ins for the 10g's and as florescent strips over the larger tanks, works wonderful for me (and there's plenty other folks on here that swear by these Home store bulbs for planted tanks, simply cause its the same then what you can find at the fish store, just not $20 per bulb but maybe $3-5 per bulb).
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Old 01-10-2010, 12:25 PM   #19
 
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There's an imbalance like I tried to explain somewhere earlier: Your weekly ferts PLUS proper lights PLUS proper CO2 fish has to be all in balance for plants to thrive, if one of these factors is not balanced right with the other 2 you'll see the problem you have.
We can excl nutrition there if you say you used to dose weekly and it didn't change anything. I'll also excl lack CO2 judging from the picture with the amount platy there. Which does leave your light in question.
Do you only have a single 4ft tube of this "flora glo" there? What lights did you get for the new tank?
no on the 55 i used to use 2 4' strips. right now it is using 2 compact flourescent bulbs. one bulb is 10,000k the other is 6,700k. both @65W.

for the 180 the canopy has looks like T5 HO. but right now im not sure if i want that setup. i found a better condition tank. but will have to buy everything else seperately.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:28 PM   #20
 
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That's almost 2.5 wpg. That's too much in order to balance THAT you'd need extra CO2 and quite some ferts; was this my tank I'd use 2x30w
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