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post #1 of 9 Old 10-09-2012, 10:55 AM Thread Starter
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Question Stocking my new 97litre!

I recently acquired a 97 litre tank, in which I am planning to stock once set up and needed some opinions on certain fish I was thinking of introducing, as different sites say different things. It will be fairly well planted and is a long, rather than tall tank.
These are some of my ideas -
-4 corydoras catfish, bronze or peppered
-3 male guppies
-5 or 6 rummy nosed or glowlight tetra
-a shoal of maybe harlequin rasbora or silver hatchet fish
-perhaps some sort of plec, cat fish or loach (would like something that doesn't shoal!!)

I have had a tropical tank a few years ago, so I am not a newbie, however wouldn't consider myself experienced (which is why I'm here!), so no fish that are tricky to keep please. Not 100% sure on compatibility of these fish and the possible loach etc.

Would my tank be big enough for these?

Any advice or suggestions will be much appreciated, thanks!
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post #2 of 9 Old 10-09-2012, 12:22 PM
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What are your water readings? Ph, Kh, and Gh? Is your tank cycled and established.

A few comments, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but some of your choices don't have similar water requirements. This I especially true about the guppies that require a higher Ph and harder water while the silver hatchetfish prefers a slightly acidic to neutral Ph. The hatchetfish also require lids because they are jumpers.

The corydoras also do better in an established tanks that has been set up for a few months. Also these are highly social fish and do better in groups of 6+ but preferably as many as you can. Also I would only choose one bottom dweller, the corydoras, a catfish, or a a group of loaches.

Also can you give me the US gallon conversion of 97 litres because that seems like a small tank.
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What are your water readings? Ph, Kh, and Gh? Is your tank cycled and established.

A few comments, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but some of your choices don't have similar water requirements. This I especially true about the guppies that require a higher Ph and harder water while the silver hatchetfish prefers a slightly acidic to neutral Ph. The hatchetfish also require lids because they are jumpers.

The corydoras also do better in an established tanks that has been set up for a few months. Also these are highly social fish and do better in groups of 6+ but preferably as many as you can. Also I would only choose one bottom dweller, the corydoras, a catfish, or a a group of loaches.

Also can you give me the US gallon conversion of 97 litres because that seems like a small tank.
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It is 25 US gallons.
That's what I wanted to know, I'll leave the the hatchets then. Thanks.
I've heard that about the Corydoras before, just that some sites have said they are fine in groups as small as three, but if they'd be happier with six, then I'll do that. Also, the tank currently has goldfish in it, which will soon be given away, so the tank is well cycled, but obviously I'll clean it and do some water changes before stoking with tropicals.
Could you recommend some friendly, non shoaling fish that would be suitable in this tank? (If it's large enough.)

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post #4 of 9 Old 10-09-2012, 02:31 PM
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Some of your standard gouramis like the blue, opaline, golden, honey, and sunset. Be careful with dwarf gouramis due to the virus that some carry. Be especially careful that you don't get the giant gourami.

These guys should be kept singly or as a male to multiple females.

Other possibility could be bolivian and German rams, but they should be kept singlely.

Other option besides corydoras can be kuhli loaches kept in a group of 6+
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post #5 of 9 Old 10-09-2012, 07:58 PM
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Welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

It is important--extremely so--to know the parameters of your source water, presumably tap water. The GH (general hardness) and KH (carbonate hardness, or Alkalinity) will not change and these can impact fish. The pH is also important. A pH test kit is a useful tool to have, as periodic monitoring of pH can alert you to problems. The GH and KH/Alkalinity you can ascertain through your water supply folks, they likely have a website. Some of the other fish mentioned will have issues in hard water, so I would deal with this first before deciding on fish.

I'll mention our profiles section, under the second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page. Data on water parameters, tank sizes, minimum number for shoaling fish, com patibility, etc. are included.

And that brings me to numbers. Corys are shoaling fish and the more the better, but generally speaking 5-6 is the minimum; these can be the same species, or if you want 2 species, no less than 3 per species. Most will chum around with almost any other species.

Many other fish are also shoaling, and again, six is the minimum usually suggested but if space permits, more will be better for the health of the fish by reducing stress. Some need even more, and the rummynose are one of these. More in our profile, click the shaded name Hemigrammus bleheri. [If the common or scientific name in the profile is used exactly in a post, it will shade, forming a link to that profile.]

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Thanks Byron!

I'll be taking a water sample to my local waterlife store soon, to find out these details, but for now I'm just getting some ideas.

I'll most likely be getting a group of six corys then and be steering away from the rummy's.

Could you please suggest any community fish that don't shoal and are OK for non-experts?

Thanks again
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post #7 of 9 Old 10-10-2012, 06:02 AM Thread Starter
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Compatibility in my community tank!

Hi, I'm currently setting up my new 97 litre tank. It will be well planted with a dark, fine gravel substrate and slightly softer to mildly hard water conditions.
After looking at the fish profiles on this site, I have decided that after time I hope to have the following in my community tank:
5 Panda Cory's
6 Harlequin Rasbora
1 Bolivian Ram
6 Silver Hatchet Fish

Would this selection be okay for my size tank and are they all definitely compatible?

Also, (if my tank is large enough already) I would love to have another shoal of fish or another non shoaling or pair of fish that would add some colour to my tank. Any advice or suggestions please?

Thankyou!

Edit by Byron: I moved this post to merge it with the existing thread as the topic is the same.

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Thanks Byron!

I'll be taking a water sample to my local waterlife store soon, to find out these details, but for now I'm just getting some ideas.

I'll most likely be getting a group of six corys then and be steering away from the rummy's.

Could you please suggest any community fish that don't shoal and are OK for non-experts?

Thanks again
Livebearers are non-shoaling, but they need medium hard water with a basic (above 7) pH, and we don't yet know this data. Most of the soft water fish are shoaling. I really would suggest contacting your water supply board for the GH, KH and pH; their numbers will be accurate and give us the starting point. If you want some reading to see how these co-relate, here's an article:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/

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post #9 of 9 Old 10-10-2012, 11:16 AM
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I have not kept those fish personally. But I have pandy cory's they are awesome cats. 5+ is a good number.
Try www.aqadvisor.com the put the fish in there, and see what they say. That site has helped me alot.

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