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Stocking ideas for 75G
Old 04-10-2009, 06:27 PM   #21
 
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I understand that, by not so good I meant "limited by selection". Sorry if that came out wrong. If you don't mind me asking, where is your general location? Maybe we could help you find an unknown store around you, or a club that you didn't know about.
i live about 30 min south of tuscon in az. there is a petsmart i used to go toin tuscon, but their stock was limited and their "experts" didnt know the difference between livebearers and egglayers. i have also tried a petland close to where i work, but they were tearing down their aquariums and had no fish. i would rather see the fish before purchasing, but real petstores are rare here. i have been looking at liveaquaria.com, they offer 14 day stay alive guarantee, and they have a large selection.

thanks for the info on the serpaes i was looking at the Red Minor Serpae Tetra. i dont need aggressive fish, i got enough of that with my platys in my 55.

here is what i have been looking at on liveaquaria:

FW - Peppered Cory Cat 12
FW - Neon Tetra Jumbo 12
FW - Golden White Cloud 12
FW - True Rummynose Tetra 12
FW - Black Phantom Tetra 12
FW - Zebra Danio 12
FW - Bleeding Heart Tetra 12


any comments?
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #22
 
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i live about 30 min south of tuscon in az. there is a petsmart i used to go toin tuscon, but their stock was limited and their "experts" didnt know the difference between livebearers and egglayers. i have also tried a petland close to where i work, but they were tearing down their aquariums and had no fish. i would rather see the fish before purchasing, but real petstores are rare here. i have been looking at liveaquaria.com, they offer 14 day stay alive guarantee, and they have a large selection.

thanks for the info on the serpaes i was looking at the Red Minor Serpae Tetra. i dont need aggressive fish, i got enough of that with my platys in my 55.

here is what i have been looking at on liveaquaria:

FW - Peppered Cory Cat 12
FW - Neon Tetra Jumbo 12
FW - Golden White Cloud 12
FW - True Rummynose Tetra 12
FW - Black Phantom Tetra 12
FW - Zebra Danio 12
FW - Bleeding Heart Tetra 12


any comments?
I don't mean to critize stores and the staff who do their best, but the problem with the "chain" and department stores is that staff are often not hobbyists, and as you have said, don't know much about fish in many cases. Every hobbyist should find a good aquarium store and get to know them and let them get to know you. They are an invaluable source of information and can save much frustration. You have a good idea in looking fish up on the internet. If you can find a good store with knowledegeable staff, get connected by email with them, then ask them what they have or if they can get this or that because you've seen them. Just realize that most stores will only want to acquire fish that are going to sell, and that's fair; they are in business. The fish on your list are such fish, most stores regularly (burt not always) have these, they are sort of "bread and butter" fish, always in demand (probably because they die for lack of proper care).

The white clouds are cooler water fish, they fare better at lower temperatures than you would want to keep the others. They come from streams of the White Cloud Mountain in China. Baensch/Riehl says temp should be in the range of 64-72F, more like room temperature.

Zebra danios are fairly lively, which should be kept in mind if you intend to get other fish that prefer it quieter (like your rams or angelfish). They also like it a bit cooler (up to 74F) than general community tropicals, but not so much so that they would suffer (as far as I know).

The tetras are all about the same in requirements, and the corys will fit in nicely with any of them or all together. Rummynose are sensitive to the water, and their bright red nose will fade to pink if the water quality deteriorates. But that is as it should be; regular partial water changes to keep the nitrates in check will keep them happy and bright. Not everyone has success with neons, maybe because they also like it just a tad cooler, up to 79F. The other tetras can go to 81 or 82, which is worth remembering if you want to add some rams or angelfish some day, although a community tank kept around 77-79F is probably the best and all of these will be fine (except the white clouds). Maybe consider cardinal tetras instead of neons?

Do the numbers 12 mean 12 fish of each? That's OK, as they are all shoaling fish that prefer company. With corys, you might like to look around, as there are a number of different species and you can mix them; I find three of each species with 12-20 total in my 70g and 90g works very well.
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:54 PM   #23
 
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good idea about the cories. maybe mix the peppered with pandas.
this tank wont have a cooler and living in the desert, i would rather go with fish that like it on the warmer side. i have some neons in my 55 now, and would like to move them to my 75. i only have 3 so i wanted to add more. thats the only reason i was going with the neons. that and cardinals are often more money. but switching to cardinals is something i would be willing to do. as long as the neons would school with the cardinals.

ok clouds are out due to temp.
danios might be too lively for my tank.
i also have 12 harlequin rasboras that are going into my 75.
and yes the numbers would be my stcking for the tank.

FW - Neon Tetra Jumbo 12
FW - True Rummynose Tetra 12
FW - Black Phantom Tetra 12
FW - Bleeding Heart Tetra 12
FW - Panda Cory Cat 4
FW - Peppered Cory Cat 4
harlequin rasboras 12
still feel like i have room for my 75g...............any more idea?

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Old 04-11-2009, 04:34 PM   #24
 
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good idea about the cories. maybe mix the peppered with pandas.
this tank wont have a cooler and living in the desert, i would rather go with fish that like it on the warmer side. i have some neons in my 55 now, and would like to move them to my 75. i only have 3 so i wanted to add more. thats the only reason i was going with the neons. that and cardinals are often more money. but switching to cardinals is something i would be willing to do. as long as the neons would school with the cardinals.

ok clouds are out due to temp.
danios might be too lively for my tank.
i also have 12 harlequin rasboras that are going into my 75.
and yes the numbers would be my stcking for the tank.

FW - Neon Tetra Jumbo 12
FW - True Rummynose Tetra 12
FW - Black Phantom Tetra 12
FW - Bleeding Heart Tetra 12
FW - Panda Cory Cat 4
FW - Peppered Cory Cat 4
harlequin rasboras 12
still feel like i have room for my 75g...............any more idea?
I'm careful about recommending fish to others; after all, it is your tank and you should have what you like to watch. I do comment on what you may suggest, as that is why we're all here, to learn from others who have done this and that so we avoid the mistakes and have better success. I'd have no trouble stocking several aquariums if I could only find the fish that I'd like to have! As you are (I think wisely) narrowing down your options to quiet, peaceful and small fish that like warmer/normal community tropical temp water that's slightly acidic, there are plenty of choices within the South American characins (tetras, pencilfish, hatchetfish). You might find it worth searching these on the internet.

A simple Google search of "characin" or tetra, hatrchetfish, pencilfish will provide hundreds of photos with descriptions and you can make a list of what you like and then narrow it down. Some will probably not be readily available anywhere, but its a good way to get a nice mix--as you read the descriptions think about fish that primarily live at the surface like the hatchets, fish that spend most time in the middle (most of the shoaling tetras), fish for the bottom (corys obviously, but there are other interesting catfish that are small and peaceful), so you fill out the aquarium. Right now my 90g seems to have the fish all middle to lower in the tank, nothing near the upper third--I've got ideas but as I said so far can't get the fish anywhere. It's nice to have the fish spread out, and the interaction between them is interesting to watch.

The harlequin rasbora will fit in nicely with the others you've listed, in temperament and water conditions. Another idea for the bottom are some of the loaches; just avoid those that get big (everyone loves clown loaches, but they can reach 12 inches although even at 6-7 inches which is what they often peak at in aquaria (I suspect due to the space and water chemistry preventing further growth) that is fairly big. But there are dwarf loaches and others that are peaceful and relatively comparable to corys in adult size.

Neons will fit in with cardinals; the neons do like it just a tad cooler as I mentioned but as you already have them, they'll be OK. When the weather gets hot and the tank heats up, I'm not sure what they may do, but that would happen whatever you have in the tank.

I don't think the pH and hardness of the water were mentioned yet, that is something to think about if you're ging with cardinals and pencilfish, also some of the other characins, as these are mostly wild-caught fish and water parameters are more important to maintain them at their best.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:18 PM   #25
 
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Sorry I only had time to do a quick search since I am on my way to an Easter dinner, but have you checked out these places?

Pets West & Desert Pet Sierra Vista & Tucson Arizona - Store Locations

or

http://www.tropicalkingdom.com/

They seem like smaller stores, so they will probably have a better selection and quality. Let me know if that helped!
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Old 04-12-2009, 12:27 AM   #26
 
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Sorry I only had time to do a quick search since I am on my way to an Easter dinner, but have you checked out these places?

Pets West & Desert Pet Sierra Vista & Tucson Arizona - Store Locations

or

http://www.tropicalkingdom.com/

They seem like smaller stores, so they will probably have a better selection and quality. Let me know if that helped!
i went to desert pets once.......they didnt have a very big selection, and what they did have was extremely expensive.

tropical kingdom would take me about an hour to get there from my house. so it is kinda far for me. especially if i get bad stock and the fish die. i dont want to have to drive all the way out to the store again.

to narrow i have been to the petcos, petsmarts, petland, and desert pet. i have been dissappointed with all their stock except for one petsmart, but their "experts" are clueless and are just unpleasant to deal with.

i think the ideas i have for my 75g will be a good starting point.

just for fun here is a pic of my 75g, currently cycling:



and here is my planted 55g housing harlequin rasboras, neon tetras, and lots of platys.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:18 PM   #27
 
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would Boesemani Rainbow fish be compatable with the other fish on my list? would different varieties of rainbow fish school together? or would they only school with their own kind?
how about Praecox Rainbow?
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:26 PM   #28
 
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would Boesemani Rainbow fish be compatable with the other fish on my list? would different varieties of rainbow fish school together? or would they only school with their own kind?
how about Praecox Rainbow?

anyone have experience with rainbow fish?
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