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post #31 of 68 Old 05-17-2012, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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I'll dial back the temperature tonight then, it's been consistent at 80 for the past day or so. Don't think the pump generates enough heat to keep the heat from stabilizing? I bought a new tube but will wait out for more cover then. Is bogwood something that should be in addition to rock formations in the tank?
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I'll dial back the temperature tonight then, it's been consistent at 80 for the past day or so. Don't think the pump generates enough heat to keep the heat from stabilizing? I bought a new tube but will wait out for more cover then. Is bogwood something that should be in addition to rock formations in the tank?
Not sure on the pump question, but another aspect is the ambient room temperature. If it is close to the tank temperature, the heater adjustment will not likely result in cooler water since the room temp will tend tokeep it close to the room temp.

Bogwood is a nice addition to any aquarium containing forest fish that come from waters thick with fallen trees, branches, stumps, logs, etc. Not only appearance, but the release of even small amounts of tannins is beneficial to the fish.

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post #33 of 68 Old 05-17-2012, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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The driftwood is something I've been looking for in pet stores locally, looked in all but one and haven't been able to find any yet. It's looking like I'm going to have to buy some online and get it shipped to me. Malaysian driftwood it is.
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post #34 of 68 Old 05-23-2012, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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Got some updates for everyone and a concern:

My malaysian driftwood will be in tomorrow! I've been checking the water levels and ammonia has never gone up. Nitrate on the other hand went up a little high (40ppm) the other night and I did a water change and am planning on doing another one tomorrow if the level is still high. I think it was one of my plants with a rotting stem and just loose leaves and stuff.

Anyways, my concern is with the plants and the substrate. I've been reading more about my sand choice in substrate and getting a little worried about compacting and oxygen flow to the root systems. Would it be a good idea to dig out the sand, plant the plant, and then instead of filling back in with sand using some gravel (1-2mm) substrate? Or would you try to bag the sand idea all together (lots of work)? Any advice would be great, don't want to go through all this work to have the plants never take off for me!

Thanks a ton!
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Got some updates for everyone and a concern:

My malaysian driftwood will be in tomorrow! I've been checking the water levels and ammonia has never gone up. Nitrate on the other hand went up a little high (40ppm) the other night and I did a water change and am planning on doing another one tomorrow if the level is still high. I think it was one of my plants with a rotting stem and just loose leaves and stuff.

Anyways, my concern is with the plants and the substrate. I've been reading more about my sand choice in substrate and getting a little worried about compacting and oxygen flow to the root systems. Would it be a good idea to dig out the sand, plant the plant, and then instead of filling back in with sand using some gravel (1-2mm) substrate? Or would you try to bag the sand idea all together (lots of work)? Any advice would be great, don't want to go through all this work to have the plants never take off for me!

Thanks a ton!
There is no issue with sand, provided it is not too deep. From 2 to 3 inches overall depth in a 4-foot tank is fine, I have this in my 115g. Plant roots will easily push through sand, and that will keep it from compacting. There is where lots of substrate-rooted plants like the pygmy chain sword and chain sword, crypts, Vallisneria and larger swords with their extensive root systems do a good job. I also recommend Malaysian Livebearing snails, they burrow throughout the substrate. A few "dead spots" is also fine, this is natural, just leave them alone. I never mess down under my many chunks of wood and rock.

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post #36 of 68 Old 05-28-2012, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice on the sand, I was getting a little worried but feel much better now. Just added a bunch of plants and 15 more neon tetras. Got some updated pictures for everyone! The water has a little green hue to it, I think this is maybe some algae since my nitrates are a little high? Anyways I'm doing water changes to try to get rid of it.







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The driftwood is something I've been looking for in pet stores locally, looked in all but one and haven't been able to find any yet. It's looking like I'm going to have to buy some online and get it shipped to me. Malaysian driftwood it is.
Do you have pictures of the new wood?

The tank is slowly coming together!

Yea do a water change and let us know how it goes.

How high are the nitrates? Did you test your tap water?

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post #38 of 68 Old 05-28-2012, 12:18 PM Thread Starter
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I'll post pictures of the new wood soon, it's in a tupperware container soaking up water so it will actually sink in the tank. It's been in for 4 days now and I'm just waiting for it to happen. I'll test my nitrates after I get home from work tonight and give an update, the tap water didn't show any traces of nitrates when I tested it before, maybe I should do it again.
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Don't overdo the water changes without reason. A new setup needs time to settled and establish the biological system. Cloudiness is normal with a new substrate and being bacterial needs time to establish; water changes will onlymake this worse visually.

That will be very lovely with some chunks of wood.

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post #40 of 68 Old 05-28-2012, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the word of caution about water changes, what level should I keep my nitrates below so that I have a good reference for when I should be doing the water changes?

When should I add more fish? Everything seems pretty stable as with the exception of the rising nitrates.

Thanks!
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