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post #11 of 29 Old 11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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The Badid (Dario dario) is in the family Badidae, which is a distinct family in the order Cypriniformes. If you go to the profile list and click on the underlined name Badids there is a descritpion of that family, including its origins, common traits of species, care, etc. Most but not all fish groups have this feature in our profiles. Characins, Cyprinids, Cichlids, Badids, Anabantids, Catfish, and Livebearers have been done to date.

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post #12 of 29 Old 11-30-2010, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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What about Glofish (jellyfish-fluid-injected danios, right?)? A school of them would probably be too big for a 5 gallon tank, but my sister wanted to know anyway.

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What about Glofish (jellyfish-fluid-injected danios, right?)? A school of them would probably be too big for a 5 gallon tank, but my sister wanted to know anyway.

Thanks!
They are zebra danio that have been genetically modified. Same info for that fish would apply. However, Europe has banned their importation and sale, and most aquarists would support this. Don't buy them.

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post #14 of 29 Old 11-30-2010, 09:31 PM
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Id suggest some Scarlet Badis, theres a difference between regular badis and scarlet badis, regular badis get to about 3 inches while scarlets get to about 3/4in. You can also put some shrimp in it aswell. Bumblebee gobies would also be fine but they dont really move a lot unless feeding time. Dwarf puffers would work also, but Im having the hardest time feeding mines, maybe its jsut mines though,
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They are zebra danio that have been genetically modified. Same info for that fish would apply. However, Europe has banned their importation and sale, and most aquarists would support this. Don't buy them.
Zebra danios are genetically modified? That is terrible! I love those nice little fish. Poor guys, not there fault some scientist modified them. I wonder if my lfs manager knows about that. Reguardless, I support the zebra danio ban, and will no longer look into getting a school.

As for the Glofish (danio), is it genetically modified? Should I not support the sale or importation of that "species"? I am just wondering. Personally, I have no interest in Glofish but my sister begged me to ask.

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Id suggest some Scarlet Badis, theres a difference between regular badis and scarlet badis, regular badis get to about 3 inches while scarlets get to about 3/4in. You can also put some shrimp in it aswell. Bumblebee gobies would also be fine but they dont really move a lot unless feeding time. Dwarf puffers would work also, but Im having the hardest time feeding mines, maybe its jsut mines though,
Questions; first, the badis. Is dario dario the latin name for the scarlet badis or the regular one? Second, I have heard of freshwater gobies but I didn't know there where any small enough to fit in a 5 gallon tank. I will look into that. Third, I know dwarf puffers only get an inch long, but don't you have to have them in at least a 30 gallon tank? Just wondering.


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post #16 of 29 Old 11-30-2010, 10:28 PM
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As I understand it, it's the glo-fish that have been genetically modified to give them their colour. Ordinary zebra danios are ok, the glo-fish are the genetically-modified zebra danios.

How about endlers? Have you looked into their suitability?

As for dwarf cories, I've got cory habrosus and recommend them. They are terrific little fish. They do a lot of swimming up and down compared to my bigger cories. If they are suitable, definitely consider getting them.
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Zebra danios are genetically modified? That is terrible! I love those nice little fish. Poor guys, not there fault some scientist modified them. I wonder if my lfs manager knows about that. Reguardless, I support the zebra danio ban, and will no longer look into getting a school.

As for the Glofish (danio), is it genetically modified? Should I not support the sale or importation of that "species"? I am just wondering. Personally, I have no interest in Glofish but my sister begged me to ask.

Thanks!



Questions; first, the badis. Is dario dario the latin name for the scarlet badis or the regular one? Second, I have heard of freshwater gobies but I didn't know there where any small enough to fit in a 5 gallon tank. I will look into that. Third, I know dwarf puffers only get an inch long, but don't you have to have them in at least a 30 gallon tank? Just wondering.


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Dwarf Puffers need just about 5 gals. Heres the quote from a puffer website.

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Even though they are small in size, dwarves need roughly 5 gallons per fish to have adequate space. They will become aggressive to one another if cramped too tightly together. They also become more aggressive as they age, particularly with sexual maturity. Make sure to keep this in mind when choosing your tank size as well as stocking it.
Dario Dario is the technical term for scarlet badis which attain 3/4in. Regular Badis Badis are 3 inches at adult size. So you want to find the Scarlet Badis (common name) or the Dario Dario (scientific name).

The only goby I would really suggest keeping in a tank that small would be the bumblebee gobies. They stay SMALL. Here is the profile for them.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/p...umblebee-goby/

As far as zebra danios go, regular zebra danios are not genetically modified and would be fine to buy. The glofish however are Zebra Danios that have been genetically modified with jellyfish DNA, these are the ones I chose not to support. I would also stay away from fish that have been "painted" or "tattooed". Those fish have actually been either injected with color or actually tattooed.
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post #18 of 29 Old 11-30-2010, 10:36 PM Thread Starter
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I love cories. I am considering getting a nice school of them for my amazon tank that I hope to have set up before the end of this year. I will probably open a thread when I find out what size it will be, so keep your eyes open.

Unfortuately, I don't think my sister would be interested in a school of these (dwarf cories).

I will look into the endlers. They look alot like guppies, though. My sister really doesn't seem to be interested in guppies, but I will bring up some pictures and ask her if endlers will work. Endlers are a bit smaller than guppies, right?

Regular zebra danios are ok? They sure don't look like genetically modified fish to me. I sure do love those little guys! I wonder if byron meant Glofish are the genetically modified zebras...

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post #19 of 29 Old 12-01-2010, 12:12 AM
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Why wouldn't your sister like the dwarf cories? They are like little puppies, really cute.

Endlers are brightly coloured and yes, smaller than guppies.

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I wonder if byron meant Glofish are the genetically modified zebras...

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Why wouldn't your sister like the dwarf cories? They are like little puppies, really cute.
I don't really know. She just doesn't see there true beauty. I guess she just simply sees them as a "bottom feeder," and they will never be anything more.

Personally, I love my cory cat. He (unfortunately, I only have one because of a terrible diesase that hit my fish tank) loves to look for food. I think that in some cases, they are more social than "show fish".

I have never seen an endler on sale, or even in person anywhere before. They don't seem to have much avalibility where I live. Maybe my lfs can order some (if they are still in buisness).

Thanks for the suggestions. I always cautiously consider each choice of fish that I am unfamiliar with, can someone second the bumblebee goby as being ok for a 5g, or quote something from a site that says it is. Not trying to hurt anyones feelings, I just can't personally find a good resource that gives a minimum tank size.

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