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Old 10-15-2009, 02:04 PM   #11
 
African Clawed Frogs are illegal to sell or possess in Oregon, so I should hope that no pet store around here would be selling them.

OK, so if I were to get some tetras, ADFs, Oto cats, and ghost shrimp, what would a good ratio be? I want to have Otos to clean up algae, and shrimp to help tidy the tank, while the tetras and ADFs would be in there just for the fun of watching them. I'd like a minimum of 2 Otos and 2 ADFs, as they do like to have same-species partners. Ghost shrimp don't add a lot to the bioload, so I'm thinking I could have three of those and be OK. How many tetras can I have? Also, do they all need to be of the same species, or will tetras shoal with one another regardless of appearance?
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:17 PM   #12
 
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I think you would be ok with 2 Otos and 2 ADF, 5 Tetra and 3 Shrimp, I would not add the Otos for a couple of months that way the tank has time to mature and actually have something for them to eat. I would go with Neon Tetras and it has been my experiance they will school better together if they are all the same kind.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:08 PM   #13
 
All right, sounds great! Why do you specifically recommend Neons? Is it because of availability, or are they particularly hardy?
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:45 AM   #14
 
neons don't fair well in new tanks as they're not very hardy, and 10 gallons isn't big enough for them In my opinion.

Ottos wont last 2 minutes in a 10 gallon tank unless it is crammed with slow growing plants, they need algae to survive, fail to meet this requirement and they will die
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:58 AM   #15
 
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I agree with Jack with regards to otocinclus not being suited for newly established tanks or tanks with no means of supporting algae growth which is the oto's primary food source.
I would perhaps look at gold pristilla tetras,blood fin tetras,whie cloud minnows,silver tipped tetras,endlers,guppies,or other small hardy fish to place in the 10 gal. Neons are increasingly becoming much weaker in terms of survival due in large part in my opinion, to practices of those who turn out numbers of fish as opposed to quality. (breeder's importer's) Beginning with hardy fish is much more enjoyable than starting with fish that may or may not thrive, and then one is forced to choose between medicating their new fish or disposing of them as they become ill.
In any event,five or six small tetras or other small fish would be close to the maximum nuber in my view for ten gal.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:21 AM   #16
 
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That is why I told him not to add the Otto for a few months so it would have something to eat. I suggested Neons just because I think they are pretty. I did not relize they are not as hardy as they use to be. And 1077 is better at this than I am so I would go with his suggestion and leave out the frogs and just do 5-6 small tetras.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:15 AM   #17
 
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Oto's are often shipped to the retailer in near starving conditiions. A healthy otos's belley should resemble a Q-tip. They are voracious eaters of algae and do best in groups of five or six in my view. Some have adapted to eating algae wafers or vegetable matter and others,won't eat anything but algae and slowly starve in the absence of it.
Calmwaters,, Your suggestions were good ones and I too very much like the neon tetras. It is also entirely possible to purchase a group of healthy neons. To do this , I might ask the fish store to hold the neons for me (if they will) for a week to ten days after they receive them. It is my expierience that many of the sick ones will perish within this time and those remaining, may be a little stronger.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:25 AM   #18
 
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I agree with Jack with regards to otocinclus not being suited for newly established tanks or tanks with no means of supporting algae growth which is the oto's primary food source.
I would perhaps look at gold pristilla tetras,blood fin tetras,whie cloud minnows,silver tipped tetras,endlers,guppies,or other small hardy fish to place in the 10 gal. Neons are increasingly becoming much weaker in terms of survival due in large part in my opinion, to practices of those who turn out numbers of fish as opposed to quality. (breeder's importer's) Beginning with hardy fish is much more enjoyable than starting with fish that may or may not thrive, and then one is forced to choose between medicating their new fish or disposing of them as they become ill.
In any event,five or six small tetras or other small fish would be close to the maximum nuber in my view for ten gal.
I'm not really a beginner, so much as I've just never tried building a community tank in such a small space. If that makes sense? Although I'll admit that I have little to no experience with Otos in particular - I heard you could allow them to thrive on a diet of various blanched vegetables and algae wafers in the absence (or a shortage) of algae. Preparing fresh foods is no biggie to me, since I've kept hermit crabs for so long and putting together daily meals for my pets is second nature.

I wasn't really planning on adding the Otos first thing, anyway, and I do plan on heavily planting my tank with a nice variety. Shouldn't be too hard to heavily plant a 10G.

What about forgetting the tetras and just going with ADFs? I've never been that fond of tetras, anyway - on the other hand, I love ADFs! They're adorable and lots of fun to watch, especially when they swim together and play. My tank is well-covered, and I'd be willing to find a very gentle filter as not to freak them out. How many of those could I put in a 10G?

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Old 10-16-2009, 09:49 AM   #19
 
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Sorry can't help you with frogs, never kept them. have heard that they don't see so well and that many folks use turkey basters to target feed them for they can't sometimes find the food too well.
Don't know if they play nice with others or not.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:12 AM   #20
 
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this is agood place for info on the frogs. Good luck with your tank.
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