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post #11 of 14 Old 04-13-2013, 12:24 AM
I'm guessing Jeff misunderstood the OP statement regarding media and was thinking water instead of filter media. Jeff?

Of course seeding a new filter with old media from an established tank jump starts the cycle as a colony or portion thereof is simply being transferred. (Just need to ensure an ammonia source is also furnished to continue to feed the crew).

Also I once saw an interesting youtube entitled 'instant cycle'. Operators of a fish store demonstrated 'instant cycle'...they squeezed clean a sponge filter from an established tank in a cup of water that quickly turned almost black. They added this to the filter of a new tank setup. Really similar to adding a bacteria supplement, but from a known fresh source.
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post #12 of 14 Old 04-13-2013, 12:27 AM
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Also I once saw an interesting youtube entitled 'instant cycle'. Operators of a fish store demonstrated 'instant cycle'...they squeezed clean a sponge filter from an established tank in a cup of water that quickly turned almost black. They added this to the filter of a new tank setup. Really similar to adding a bacteria supplement, but from a known fresh source.
I've actually done this method, although I overdid it by using squeezings from multiple sponges. I created a mess, but I did get the desired (and I'll admit somewhat suprising to me) result.
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post #13 of 14 Old 04-13-2013, 09:51 AM
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FWIW

All this seeding and growing bacteria is moot when the tank is started with lotsa fast growing plants. The plants consume the "extra" ammonia directly preventing the cycles.

Meanwhile the bacteria are still growing and who cares if it takes days or weeks to reach full levels? Afterall there is no ammonia spikes either way.

Then when the bacteria have grown and are processing the ammonia, the plants reluctantly consume the resulting nitrates for nitrogen.


Later on should something go bump in the night and ammonia increases, the plants are there to consume the "extra" ammonia preventing dangerous spikes and/or possible crashes.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #14 of 14 Old 04-13-2013, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
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GREAT info all !!!! well added the sand to my brand new 55 gal. after much thought and a ton of time on the web I think I may make this a mbuna tank.I only fought with the fact that I love bottom fish like corry's and loaches,any Ideas on what bottom fish may fit in with this type of haplochromine cichlids

29 gal.
2 green corys
5 zebra danios
5 harlequin Rasbo's

10 gal .
fully cycled no fish

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