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post #1 of 9 Old 12-17-2007, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
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Here is what I have:

10 gallon tank with AC20 HOB filter, 30+ watts of lighting.

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A dedicated bottom dweller with some kind of top feeder and the correct type of substrate for the bottom dweller.

Tank will also be heavily planted with Anubias, Crypt Lucens, Wisteria, Primrose and Bacopa Australis

No cories, sorry. I love them but after losing mine I am not wanting to get more of them right now.
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post #2 of 9 Old 12-17-2007, 04:11 PM
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A dedicated bottom dweller with some kind of top feeder and the correct type of substrate for the bottom dweller.
Bumblebee gobies. There are a few species that are really tolerant of pure freshwater. Brachygobius aggregatus and Brachygobius xanthomelas are true freshwater gobies. Sand or fine gravel is fine but sand is much better.

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A dedicated bottom dweller with some kind of top feeder and the correct type of substrate for the bottom dweller.
Bumblebee gobies. There are a few species that are really tolerant of pure freshwater. Brachygobius aggregatus and Brachygobius xanthomelas are true freshwater gobies. Sand or fine gravel is fine but sand is much better.
That's an interesting suggestion. They're really cute looking too, but can get agressive as far as I know. I've also heard that they're one of thre few fish (along with otos) that seem to be able to be kept with dwarf puffers.

Or maybe some shrimp for the bottom?

For the top feeder are you think of a single fish? Maybe some type of betta, a rarer type maybe, would be nice. Or you could try DPs.
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Never considered Gobbies, I like them and could do a brachish tank anyway. Would have to get some salt tolerant plants but oh well. I can keep the plants in another tank or set up a shallow one for them. That would allow for the dwarf puffers also.

Maybe I will just set both tanks up, one for the puffers and gobbies and one to breed guppies for food, and pond snails unless I can find some Colombian Ramshorns.
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That's an interesting suggestion. They're really cute looking too, but can get agressive as far as I know.
It's more of the territory issues more than actual personality but should not be an issue in a 10g by themselves with some mid and surface dwellers.
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As long as the uffers are kept well-fed and gobies provided with several hiding places, this is possible.
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Problem is any wild betta will prefer a slightly acidic water which is not the norm for bumblebee gobies so both species would be at odds. Betta splendens are fine though.

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Never considered Gobbies, I like them and could do a brachish tank anyway. Would have to get some salt tolerant plants but oh well. I can keep the plants in another tank or set up a shallow one for them. That would allow for the dwarf puffers also.
Some gobies do not need to be in brackish water conditions to thrive. As I said, there are some true freshwater gobies which is your best bet. A tank at 5-6 inches minimum is fine for the gobies. I had not seen mine using the mid and surface levels at all so depth is not important.

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Will have to see which ones my LFS carries or can order. Hopefully they will know the actual scientific names so I can tell for sure. Puffers would be fun but I would like to get a larger tank so I can have a good group of them. Maybe if I ever get my 26 gallon bowfront tall set up I will get them then.

Would a mix of Kuhlii loaches and Danios work? I think you said that Kuhllies are much less aggressive and the danios should leave them alone. Would they need the sand also or would a fine gravel be better with some really small caves for hiding holes?

I wonder if there would be any chance that Bumble bee Gobies and Bumble Bee crawfish would get along? The craws are supposed to be peaceful and only eat veggies but I would have to research them better to know for sure.
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Would a mix of Kuhlii loaches and Danios work? I think you said that Kuhllies are much less aggressive and the danios should leave them alone. Would they need the sand also or would a fine gravel be better with some really small caves for hiding holes?
The combo will be fine.:) Sand or finer substrate is much preferred as they do tend to bury themselves underneath. Some additional territories are nice for them.

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post #9 of 9 Old 12-17-2007, 06:10 PM
Gobies do like a fair amount of current. You could use a small powerhead to create that. A small tank with shallow water and rockwork would be unique. I might have to try it myself.

Another suggestion wouldbe darters, they like clear,clean, moving water. The same setup as mentioned above would work just fine. And no heater would be needed. And you can go out and collect them. Did I hear someone mention "fieldtrip"? Count me in.
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