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Old 11-07-2010, 08:20 PM   #21
 
also both the betta and cichlid are territorial fish, they will end up fighting for space in that small an area.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:56 PM   #22
 
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I agree with the others your tank is way to small for the fish you list. It is a very nice tank just to small for what you want to do. The ram and betta together would be a very bad idea they will fight until one is dead. In my opinion even just the ram in that tank will be to big. I would do either the betta or the guppys not both. But it is up to you do you want your fish to be happy and healthy or are you just going do do what ever you want regardless of what everyone else says. As for plants cambodia, wisteria, and cryptocoryne wendtii are all nice plants that are easy to take care of. The crypt is nice because it comes in green, red, and bronze. I like the soft look of the cambodia and both it and the wister are nice because as they grow to the top of your tank you can trim them and replant them to make more plants.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:24 PM   #23
 
i would vote against any stem plants as they get very tall and will require you to reach in and trim them every once in a while. The edge is a closed top system so the space u have to actually stick your hand in to clean and trim is very small so that might be a lot of bothersome work. Unless you absolutely love stem plants, it might not be the nest choice.

Also, the inch per gallon rule is inaccurate, its the bioload its trying to measure but fish like the pleco will poop lots, way more than expected for its size, almost double so that one pleco alone will cover your 2/3 of your capacity as even the smalled plecos will achieve 4 inches, pooping 8 inches worth of poop, taking up 4 gallons of space.

Also, i have never heard of 2 inches per gallon, the common rule is 1 inch per gallon if im not mistaken.

A dwarf ram will achieve 4-5 inches, the edge will be sufficient in terms of bioload. However, i rams prefer to have more space length-wise and not heightwise so if this was a 6 gallon long tank, it would be fine, but i think the edge is only around 1.5-2ft wide so the ram will be a little stressed because its territory is limited.

Lastly, a betta should never be kept with guppies because the coloration of the guppies will cause the betta to go gladiator and take them out. Note, one betta and a mildly planted tank is a pretty good balance. I did it for a 5g tank before and i didnt have to do weekly water changes, i had a coffeolia plant, a few pygmy chain swords, and a handful of java moss. I only had algae problems if I let the tank go for more than a month without water changes. Bettas have a pretty mild bio-load for their size so they make for good options for smalled tanks ranging from 3-6g tanks.

Lastly 3-4 guppies is feasible. It'll be pushing your bioload a little when they reach max size, but its manageable.

If one fish seems too plain for your tastes, consider inverts as tank-mates. apple/mystery snails make good tank is a good option, the betta and ram might snack on its antennaes, but itll be fine. Shrimp is also good, they might get eaten, but if your tank has enough hiding spots, they will be fine.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:53 PM   #24
 
The Ram and my Female Betta have been living in my other tank for ages, with no problems at all.

Anyway, I will have a rethink about the stocking closer to the time, thanks for your help!

Here is a pic of my Fluval Edge, I squeezed the old filter media out through a sock today to get some of the established bacteria into the tank, hence the cloudiness.

I have tested the water parameters, yesterday and today, and they are perfect!:

PH: 7.5
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
General Hardness: Got it down from 120mg/l to 30mg/l
Carbonate Hardness: Down from 120mg/l to 40mg/l

Looking forward to testing tomorrow!

Here is a pic of my Fluval Edge, I squeezed the old filter media out through a sock today to get some of the established bacteria into the tank, hence the cloudiness.



Thanks!

Benji

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Old 11-08-2010, 05:35 PM   #25
 
ohh i really like how you arranged the substrate so theres a dip in the middle.

As per the ram and betta situation, how big is your other tank? if it is large enough they can coexist, but in a 6g, it might not work so well. It wouldn't hurt much to try it out, maybe the betta will establish itself at the top and the ram at the bottom. If it works, then it works, if not then just take one out.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:52 PM   #26
 
Thanks for the kind words! :') My other tank is a little smaller than this one, and they get along just fine! But as you say, if there is any problems, the ram is coming out right away!

Day 3 pic coming later!
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:54 PM   #27
 
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That sounds a better idea!!
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:05 PM   #28
 
Day 3 Picture

Here is my tank on day 3, water test results:

pH: 7.5
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
General Hardness: 40mg/L
Carbonate Hardness: 60mg/L

Piccy!



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Old 11-09-2010, 01:09 PM   #29
 
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looking clearer!
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:31 PM   #30
 
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It went really cloudy yesterday, is that becuase of the bacteria created when cycling? It is clearing up today! Thanks for your help, it has been great so far! I plan on keeping a diary here for a good long while, and keep you all updated!

Thanks Again,

Benji.
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