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Start stocking, how many are safe?
Old 11-22-2009, 10:00 AM   #1
 
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Cool Start stocking, how many are safe?

My 3 new tanks have been up & running with plants only for 10 day to date.
I'd like to start stocking the 43 & 55g ones, they'll all have Oto's & Cory's and various schools of Tetra's.

Now obviously I can't get all these fish at once and put them in, that would sorta overload the system so to speak.

Generally I'd go ahead and introduce one species per week now BUT giving the fact I'm 3hrs (one way) away from the LFS that does have all the fish I want I was wondering really how many at one time I can get and still be on the SAFE side because I'd hate to start all over again with the tanks just to have casualties right from the start?!
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:02 AM   #2
 
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hi
are you going to cycle with fish ?
i wouldn't add Ottos to a new tank,they won't make it,they are such sensetive fish.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:16 AM   #3
 
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i agree with willow. i personally would add the school of tetras first, and you probably could get away with the corys. i would wait a good while before adding the ottos for the simple fact they need a good supply of algea and as willow said are very sensitive fishies. what kind of cories are you thinking about?
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:48 AM   #4
 
Introducing a few fish at a time starting with the hardier types is a good way to go. Being such a long trip from LFS is a bit more difficult. If you have 2 tanks set up then you can break up the trips if multiples are possible.

Like for me. I'd get 2 corys, and 2-5 of another fish for each tank. I used Zebra Danios. So you'd be getting double that. So about 8-14 fish in one go. Let them be for a few days. Say till the following weekend. Give the tank time to catch up and you time to make another trip to the store.

On the next trip you can probably get another 5-10 fish per tank. It's not the perfect scenario. But gotta work with what you got right?


And what are "otto's" ? I don't recognize the short hand.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:58 AM   #5
 
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The 55g will be fairly safe if not overcrowded in 1 go, had its N-Peak and went back down over the past few days.

Oto = Otocinclus sp. often mixed up as being chinease alge eaters even thou they're 2 different fish just looking very similar. I do have hair algae in the 55g to offer them BUT so far I never had them in ANY tank others then well established tanks, so they'd not be my personal first choice to add in there

As for the Cory's something along either Julii or sterbai - Depending what I will be able to find in the end.

To be realistic, I don't find any of the fish I want to have 'hardy', not the Oto, nor Cory nor Cardinal or Emperor....

Somehow the last 6 tank set up's and stockings never seemed so troublesome to me (Picking up a few each week at the store next door)
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:18 AM   #6
 
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with a planted tank i wouldnt be too worried about hardy fish. a lot of folks say with a well planted aquarium you can put fish in rather quickly (byron i have heard say this several times on here)
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:40 AM   #7
 
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And I agree with this; I'm just wondering really how many at one time would still be safe...
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:02 PM   #8
 
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First a comment or two on the Otocinclus. Always wait for the tank to become well established, and have green or brown algae present, before adding otos. Angel, otos will not touch hair algae; they only eat normal green and brown. While they will later feed on tablets (mine do constantly, down there with the corydoras) they do better at first if there is algae. They spend their entire day grazing for algae and if none is present when introduced to a new tank they frequently don't eat and die off quickly.

Otos go through considerable stress during capture and transport, and it is common to have entire shipments die within days as a result. When acquiring otos from a store, always ensure they have been in the store tank for at least a week, preferably longer, before buying, and then observe them carefully. Make sure they are active, eating and round in appearance. Be careful with water parameters that they are not subjected to drastic differences. Once they settle in, they are quite good; mine spawn regularly, I had three in my 90g and one day noticed there were five, two slightly smaller; obviously they had spawned. And they need to be in groups, minimum 3 or more with space (and algae).

On the fish in the new tank, if the tank is well-planted, add the fish. I have moved 95 fish into a newly set-up 115g the day after I planted it and there was no ammonia or nitrite detectable from the first. I did have plants and some wood from an existing tank, and there would have been bacteria on it to be sure; but years ago I had to disinfect and reset my 115g in one day and with it full of plants I did not lose one fish. I have never "cycled" new tanks because I always plant them heavy at first and the plants grab most of the ammonia. With inexperienced aquarists I would recommend going easy at first, but from what I've read of your posts I do not put you in that category, and you know what "well-planted" and healthy plants mean, so go for it. The only exception would be very sensitive species that need well-established tanks.

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Old 11-22-2009, 12:15 PM   #9
 
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i knew byron would be along with some advice!!
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:23 PM   #10
 
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And excellent advice at that!
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