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Old 01-22-2013, 10:01 AM   #1
 
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Hey guys, I'm new here but have an intermediate level of fish knowledge. Here is a picture of my 20 Long. I was wondering if you guys had any design tips. I keep messing with the slate trying to figure out a better way to arrange it. I'm also trying to get more live plants in here any ideas? I currently have three amazonian swords.

The fish in the tank are as follows:
6 Neon Tetras
2 Honey Gouramis
1 Dwarf Gourami
2 Corey Catfish
2 Kuhlii Loaches


Thanks,
Ty

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Old 01-22-2013, 03:32 PM   #2
 
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Hi Ty, and welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

More plants, and more fish. Just what most of us like to hear.

I would move the three swords apart, as they will grow out once they are settled. Don't space them equidistant from themselves or it will draw attention to the fact, and the tank perimeters. One can stay where it is now, another can go behind the slate on the right, at the back but out from the wall so the plant is right at the edge of the slate, and the third in front of the middle rock formation just in front of the right hand piece, to the left of that fish in the photo. Hope this all makes sense.

Then, some short plants, and here I would suggest pygmy chain sword or chain sword. [Click the shaded names to see the profile with photos.] This keeps the sword plant theme, and that helps unify an aquarium. This plant as the profiles mention will spread quite rapidly once established. And some floating plants. Water Sprite is one of my favourites, but almost any will serve. Floating plants are important for water quality but also to provide a bit of shade which all these fish prefer. They will be more colourful and out more with floating plants.

Another good plant is Brazilian Pennywort. This is a stem plant that can be grown planted in the substrate or floating, or planted and allowed to grow up to and across the surface.

I would also suggest some wood, chunks of bogwood like Malaysian Driftwood, which is very natural to the habitats of all these fish.

On the fish, add more corys. I don't know what species you have, but they should be in groups of five or more, and you have space. You can mix species, they all get along well. If you do mix species, try to get no fewer than 3 of any one species. They are highly social fish and need company or they will be stressed.

Our fish and plant profiles are under the second heading from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, and the corys are under catfish. When fish or plant names are exactly the same in a post as in the profile, they shade and form a link to the profile.

Hope this helps.

Byron.

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Old 01-22-2013, 04:25 PM   #3
 
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Hey Byron, Thank you for all that awesome info. Where would you recommend to get water sprite as well as the Chain sword due to the fact that all have for pet supplies in the local area is a pets smart which is poorly stocked?
Also do you have a preference on which type of cory catfish to get?
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:36 PM   #4
 
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So I didn't get that post till after I did some rearranging and I got lucky and pets smart had a lava rock ad anubias nana combo for $5.99 So I got that and then put it in the back right corner. I then adjusted all the slate to give it a more natural and shoal like feel for them. I moved all the swords around like you suggested. Here is an updated picture so you can see.
I also added black sand on top of the seachem fluorite because I was reading on here that sand is needed for the corys because otherwise the gravel with slowly file their feelers down.

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Old 01-22-2013, 04:45 PM   #5
 
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That's better, much along the lines of what I was getting at previously about spreading the plants but not uniformly. This is good.

But, now I've taken a closer look at the plants, I think these are terrestrial plants. They are not true sword plants, Echinodorus bleherae or whatever. They look like a Dracaena, a terrestrial plant that other members have mentioned being available in the chain fish stores. Keep an eye on them; Hiscock says the plant can survive underwater for several months. But if they begin to die, I would pull them out.

You should get some true swords, Echinodorus bleherae [click the name for the profile], this is a superb plant. I don't know what reliable plant sources you may have in the US, I'm in Canada and get mine locally. Other members should be able to help, as online plant sources have been discussed periodically.

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Old 01-22-2013, 04:47 PM   #6
 
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Are those really amazon swords? Something about them doesn't look right. I've never seen the leaves come together in a single thick stem at the base the way those do.

EDIT: Byron beat me to it lol. Glad I'm not the only one that thought so
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Are those really amazon swords? Something about them doesn't look right. I've never seen the leaves come together in a single thick stem at the base the way those do.
Ha, we were posting almost simultaneously--that just dawned on me too in the last post.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:04 PM   #8
 
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Okay I will keep an eye on them. Funkman any recommendations as to where I can get some real Echinodorus bleherae as well as the Chain Sword and Water Sprite?
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:30 PM   #9
 
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Ha, we were posting almost simultaneously--that just dawned on me too in the last post.
Just looking at the plants, my first thought before reading, was he had Lilly's in his tank....

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Okay I will keep an eye on them. Funkman any recommendations as to where I can get some real Echinodorus bleherae as well as the Chain Sword and Water Sprite?
I find Echinodorus bleherae is stocked quite widely, but im also in another country looking now
The chain sword, helanthium bolivium is a really nice one but harder to find in my experience, along with helanthium tenellum, which is my favourite. (which has recently been reclassed here by Byron to its new true name. I find that most shops, both lfs and online have NOT caught up with this yet.......and you are much more likely to find it under the name Echinodorus tennellus)

Also, i like the black sand with the slate and the contrast to the green of the plants..... a big improvement IMO

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Old 01-22-2013, 05:33 PM   #10
 
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Honestly, an amazon sword may grow too large for that size tank and overshadow any nearby plants. I had started out wit a single 6" plant in my 90g tank, replanted a couple of the plantlets that grew off of that one, and they each grew nearly 2' tall to the top of the tank. I ended up having to remove two of them and just keeping the original. I was constantly having to pull out plantlets. Here's a couple runners with probably 20 plantlets growing off of it that grew to six inches or so before I pulled it out of the tank:
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And the whole tank with two of them still in there:
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