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post #1 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
Exclamation So I've finally got my own test kit & have tested both the tap and tank water..

(the 'tap' water was actually treated water I'd left in a container for a couple of days but it's close enough right?)

For the tank the readings I got were:
ammonia 3 ppm
nitrite 0 ppm
nitrate 30ppm

For the tap water:
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 10ppm
ph about 7.8

although I wasn't sure which colours they matched so~

The tank has been running 2 months now I think & I've got five cardinal tetra which have been there a month and a bit.

It's planted with 5 different species of plant, all seem to be doing well.

I have an internal sponge filter

temp is set to 24.5*C

My water I'd imagine is quite hard.

Tank is 30 litres.

any ideas? =/

Last edited by lostperspective; 10-20-2010 at 02:20 PM. Reason: forgot to mention vol of tank
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post #2 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 02:26 PM
ammonia seems to be very high.any cloudiness?

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
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post #3 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
There's quite a lot of algae but from what I can see, the water is clear.
It smells a quite fishy though~
(there were 5 fish at last count so it's not a dead fish)
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post #4 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 02:56 PM
hair algea? all tanks has that smell lol how big is the tank?

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
what I'd imagine hair algae looks like yes.
although there are also brown spots of algae from before which are steadily covering the glass.

well I don't know! It's quite pungent. =')

30 litres.which is slightly over 8 us gallons I think but i'm not sure~
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post #6 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 03:07 PM
lessen the light time, don't over feed.i think leftover food in the tank might be causing the ammonia spikes.

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #7 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 03:07 PM
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That is some pretty high ammonia! I have 3 tanks but I only cycled my first one. I checked the toxicity everyday and at its peak it was at 3ppm. Your tank has most likely already cycled. If you have done any 100% water changes or massive back to back water changes then your tank your tank might be re-cycling.

You may be overfeeding your fish. Usually that results in high Nitrates, though. Gravel vacs and water changes are critical to keep the toxicity down. Are you sure it is 3ppm and not .3ppm? With such low nitrates (although nitrates recommended 20ppm and under) I wouldn't know why your ammonia would be so high.

Do you have any snails? A rotting snail certainly isn't good for toxicity. Have you added multiple new fish lately? I guess you probably haven't with five fish. Your water tempreture is within a suitable range for neon tetras (68 - 78 degrees, sorry I don't know what that is in cecius but your tank is 76.1 degrees). Who knows?

Hope this helps!

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post #8 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
I'm pretty certain it's not that it has cycled already since two weeks ago I got it tested and I had extremely high ammonia (at least 8.0ppm) & little/none nitrite & nitrate.

How my fish have survived thus far I do not know but I'm very happy they have.

I had three tiny (under 2mm) snails who I think must have died two weeks ago.. lol.

The five fish have been in the tank about a month and 3 weeks~

I hadn't done a water change for three days (until I saw the readings!) & I've not changed more than a third of the water at once~

I've barely fed the fish since I did a big water change on Sunday & I'd been feeding every other day for a week before that~

Ammonia was definitely around 3.0 ppm but like I said, I've not used the test kit before so it looked somewhere around 1.0 and 8.0.. I reckoned between 2 and 4 but I could be way out.

The main source of light for the tank, although I do have a 10 watt bulb, is sunlight, so that's out of my control really..
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post #9 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 04:02 PM
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Well, perhaps the snails was a big reason your ammonia is so high. If you haven't removed the snails they need to be removed immediatly. Snails rot in thier shells and pollute the water with ammonia. If you get snails again be very careful what you medicate your fish with. Make sure that it doesn't mention being harmful to snails.

Direct sunlight causes high algae growth. I've had my tanks sort of out of the sun for 4 months now and they are just starting to get algae.

Anyway, hope this helps!

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post #10 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
the snails were just tiny ones which hitchhiked on the plants, I really don't think they could have made much of an impact - also the ammonia was really high before they vanished. I ~think I saw one of their shells when I was messing around with one of the plants a week ago but the chances of actually finding them are tiny.
=)

So should I just keep waiting and hoping it sorts itself out in the end? =/
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