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post #11 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 07:40 PM
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Agree. As you are changing the substrate, consider live plants. They do the cycling for you, in a sense, because by grabbing the ammonia so fast the fish don't suffer from ammonia toxicity. Provided you have sufficient plants, especially some floating and fast growing kinds, and few small fish. We can discuss this more if you ask.

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post #12 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 07:54 PM
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I also have a number of plants which are doing really well, is there any way I can reuse these plants after I restart my tank?
Very good question and one best left to the experts. At the very least, I would probably give them a quick salt water wash. Then I would watch closely for visible parasites, etc during the cycle. Let's see what our more knowledgeable friends have to offer first. I tend to play loose with the rules.

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post #13 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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I've been talking to another person on another fish forum who simply said take out the remaining minnow and start using seachem stability since I'd prefer not to waste all my substrate and plants with well established roots.
With the use of Seachem Stability, would you need to add additional ammonia/fish food to help the process?
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Realize that the only humane way to take care of this minnow is by smashing it. (Unless you have a product such as clove oil to euthanize it).
If you have enough plants you don't need any other product. It'd help to get an idea of what you have in there.

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I've been talking to another person on another fish forum who simply said take out the remaining minnow and start using seachem stability since I'd prefer not to waste all my substrate and plants with well established roots.
With the use of Seachem Stability, would you need to add additional ammonia/fish food to help the process?
You don't need to add Stability with live plants that are growing, nor do you need to add any other form of ammonia. Plants assimilate ammonia, quite a lot of it, so the ammonia from a few small fish would easily be taken up by the plants as their nitrogen and the "cycle" would be un-noticed by the fish--or you with tests. There is likely some bacteria already present anyway.

I had assumed yo wanted to change the substrate for aesthetic reasons (wanted something different).

Stability is a bacterial supplement and it does work, I have used it. So don't misunderstand me. It simply isn't necessary, though if you want to spend the money for a small bottle it certainly won't hurt.

But, we are still left with what if any pathogens came with the live fish. And this I cannot answer.

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Have red and green hygro, bit of grass, bit of java moss on the driftwood. And some aluminium stuff which I just found out isn't aquatic (apparently). I'll be taking the minnow out within the hour.
I like the substrate even though I brought some laterite to the surface in a small section, I just covered it up again.
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post #17 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
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That is a nice substrate, I like that too.

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post #18 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 08:37 PM
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Lonely minnow. Awww he's so cute I couldn't smash him. Just do a native minnow tank. :p
Is that middle plant aquatic? The white inside the green is throwing me off.

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post #19 of 22 Old 05-14-2012, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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HowStuffWorks "Aluminum Plant: A Profile of a House Plant"

Looking at a few sites now that show it as a household plant, and another user is telling me to remove them because although they survive, they will die and rot eventually.
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I hope you're returning the minnow to the dam, not "smashing" it

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