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post #1 of 9 Old 05-17-2010, 01:42 AM Thread Starter
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I've recently set up a new 10g (about 8 weeks old) in which I planted live Anacharis. The plants were advertised by my LFS snail free but I was skeptical as the lady was boasting about how they have a friend of theirs grow it in his pond and they buy it all from him. They keep what they sell in a tank full of aquatic plants that are sure to be full of pond snails but I bought them anyways thinking I could just give them a once over with some running water and inspect to make sure there weren't actually any snails. Much to my surprise, about 6 days into my tank being set up I see a little guy crawling on my glass. I kind of welcomed him because I was cycling and it was nice to actually see something living in the already set up tank. So I decided to let him stay. Over time he has grown to be a very large snail and I've noticed I now have another smaller one crawling around and two tiny tiny tiny baby snails making their way around my plants. My question is...

How can I control the snail population in my tank without removing the original snail? (My girlfriend and I have grown fond of him and don't want to see him go. He's a really pretty snail for a pond snail.)

Should I just take out the smaller ones as they come along? (Because I know they'll continue to reproduce)

How much will one or two of these pond snails contribute to my bioload? (I'm at around 96% stocked with all of the fish I have in right now)

Any words of advice are appreciated, thanks! :)

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post #2 of 9 Old 05-17-2010, 11:31 PM
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You can put a peice of lettuce in the tank and then the next day pull it out and toss all the snails you dont want.

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post #3 of 9 Old 05-17-2010, 11:43 PM
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snails are actualy good for your tank. they wont add to your bioload, maybe around 100 of them can take up 1%.... i would leave them, and if there are so many that it is ugly, you can do what was said before, lettuce.

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post #4 of 9 Old 05-18-2010, 02:18 AM Thread Starter
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The lettuce thing is an idea I would have never thought of! Thanks. :)

teddyzaper, I thought snails pooped a lot and made a mess.(or is that just big mystery snails?) How are they good for the tank? I'll probably let stay the ones that are already established and see if I can't control anymore that come along.

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post #5 of 9 Old 05-18-2010, 02:35 AM Thread Starter
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I've also read that the baby snails will decimate my plants. Is this true?

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only some snails will eat plants, but the ones you have wont. the only snail that poops a lot would be a HUGE apple snail, other known as mystery snail. i would just leave them, they clean algea from the leaves of plants, and glass. the only time a snail will eat a plant is when its leaf is dead or dieing. i dont understand why people dont like snails, they are a good thing in your aquarium.

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All snails poop quite a bit for their size, but even so it's definately worth it.
From what I know (which is limited, I admit) you'd rather have 1mg of snail poop decomposing compared to 10mg of uneaten fish food and plant debri.

I also embrace my snails because my 10 is heavily planted- I'm sure that not every guppy born survives to adulthood, so the snails will also eat any dead fry (in the jungle of hygrophila for example) before they can pollute my tank.

To control their population, just avoid overfeeding. I only feed my fish what they can consume in 2-3 minutes, once every two days.
(Not counting when I feed live mosquito larvae)
A hungry fish is a healthy fish.

Plus, that way any snails that starve will simply be eaten by other snails.

I'm so proud of this forum, no one has reccommended buying a loach to eat the snails. :)

Wanted to add:
I have MTS, Ramshorns, and Pond Snails in all three of my tanks. At first, the pond snails took over- but now, the ramshorns are out-competing them. I hardly see pond snails anymore.

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If you like snails get some Assassin snails. They are really pretty looking and grow slow. They will only eat other snails not their own kind. You need a male + female to produce egg pods and the baby snails when hatched will say in your gravel or sand bed for 2-3 months before you see them surface very slow growing. The good thing about them is that they do not eat plants at all. If their is no snails to eat they will eat any flake food that has protien in it. I give earthworm sticks, or freezed dryed bloodworms. I bought the earthworm sticks on-line from http://www.kensfish.com. One really cool thing is that when I moved my 13 or so Assassin snails out of my 55 gal. tank to a holder plastic container while catching all of them I went outside in my tub unfiltered pond and put 5 nice size pond snails in the container with them. I left them in for no more then 20 min.All the insides of the pond snails all 5 were sucked out and all that way left was an empty shell. How cool it that. I think you can get them at Aquatic Warehouse in san Diego for 6 for $12 but if you are not from around here you can get them from http://www.aquabid.com under invertebrates. The good thing about these snails I love so much is they are easy to rehome as everyone has pest snails that they want to trim down with out getting a yo yo loach or other loach or puffer to eat them. They stay small, has little bio-load if any and can be in big tanks or small 2-3 gal nano tanks and are neat to watch make a kill.

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All snails poop quite a bit for their size, but even so it's definately worth it.
From what I know (which is limited, I admit) you'd rather have 1mg of snail poop decomposing compared to 10mg of uneaten fish food and plant debri.

I also embrace my snails because my 10 is heavily planted- I'm sure that not every guppy born survives to adulthood, so the snails will also eat any dead fry (in the jungle of hygrophila for example) before they can pollute my tank.

To control their population, just avoid overfeeding. I only feed my fish what they can consume in 2-3 minutes, once every two days.
(Not counting when I feed live mosquito larvae)
A hungry fish is a healthy fish.

Plus, that way any snails that starve will simply be eaten by other snails.

I'm so proud of this forum, no one has reccommended buying a loach to eat the snails. :)

Wanted to add:
I have MTS, Ramshorns, and Pond Snails in all three of my tanks. At first, the pond snails took over- but now, the ramshorns are out-competing them. I hardly see pond snails anymore.
About feeding...
I feed my neon tetras two times a day. I can't remember who but someone recommended I do so, so I do.
I feed my African Dwarf Frogs once a day, a few blood worms a piece then I leave what ever else they don't eat in there and my cories clean it up along with the left over food from the tetras.

Is this to much?

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If you like snails get some Assassin snails. They are really pretty looking and grow slow. They will only eat other snails not their own kind. You need a male + female to produce egg pods and the baby snails when hatched will say in your gravel or sand bed for 2-3 months before you see them surface very slow growing. The good thing about them is that they do not eat plants at all. If their is no snails to eat they will eat any flake food that has protien in it. I give earthworm sticks, or freezed dryed bloodworms. I bought the earthworm sticks on-line from http://www.kensfish.com. One really cool thing is that when I moved my 13 or so Assassin snails out of my 55 gal. tank to a holder plastic container while catching all of them I went outside in my tub unfiltered pond and put 5 nice size pond snails in the container with them. I left them in for no more then 20 min.All the insides of the pond snails all 5 were sucked out and all that way left was an empty shell. How cool it that. I think you can get them at Aquatic Warehouse in san Diego for 6 for $12 but if you are not from around here you can get them from http://www.aquabid.com under invertebrates. The good thing about these snails I love so much is they are easy to rehome as everyone has pest snails that they want to trim down with out getting a yo yo loach or other loach or puffer to eat them. They stay small, has little bio-load if any and can be in big tanks or small 2-3 gal nano tanks and are neat to watch make a kill.
That sounds like a good idea but my girlfriend would freak out if she knew the other snails in the tank were being assassinated. Haha.

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