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Old 11-13-2010, 10:42 AM   #1
 
Snail Question

i have a 110 gallon tank with 4 glass fish, 2 baby angel fish, 1 Ancistrus, 2 krebensis, and 4 zebra fish.. Is it wise to add snails into the tank. I know they can be troublesome to have but i would like some advice on getting some or not.
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:16 PM   #2
 
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Apple snails shouldn't be troublesome. If you get only one, it can't breed. If you get more than one, they lay their eggs above the water line and you can scoop them out if you don't want them to hatch. I've got an apple snail in all of my tanks, I love them.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:44 PM   #3
 
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I like the small snails, like Malaysian Livebearing, pond or bladder snails. These, esp the Malaysian, are good at finding and eating a lot of stuff. The Malaysian burrow through the substrate keeping it more loose and help prevent compaction. I consider any of these to be useful and a sign of a healthy system.
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:41 PM   #4
 
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i have a fresh water tank 120ltrs when i do a water change i usually use a small amount of tonic salt, however i have just added a apple snail who is thriving.

Can i still use the tonic salt on water changes or will that kill the snail?
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i have a fresh water tank 120ltrs when i do a water change i usually use a small amount of tonic salt, however i have just added a apple snail who is thriving.

Can i still use the tonic salt on water changes or will that kill the snail?
In sufficient quantity, yes. But more importantly, it may be harming the fish. You don't indicate what fish are in the tank, but only livebearers can "tolerate" salt and even they do not need it. Salt should never be added to a freshwater aquarium except for specific treatment of certain diseases, and then only if the fish species in the tank are able to handle it. Salt is detrimental to freshwater fish and plants in varying degrees. To understand why, we must understand what salt does in water.

Salt makes the water more dense than the same water without salt. The aquarium contains water. The bodies of fish and plant leaves also contain water [just as we do--we are, what is it, 70-some percent water?]. The water in the aquarium and the water in the fish/plant are separated by a semi-permeable layer which is the cell. Water can pass through this cell. When either body of water is more dense, the other less-dense body of water will pass through the membrane to equalize the water on both sides.

Water is constantly passing through the cells of fish by osmosis in an attempt to equate the water inside the fish (which is more dense) with the water in the aquarium. Put another way, the aquarium water is diluting the fish's body water until they are equal. Freshwater fish regularly excrete this water through respiration and urination. This is the issue behind pH differences as well as salt and other substances. It increases the fish's work--the kidney is used in the case of salt--which also increases the fish's stress in order to maintain their internal stability. Also, the fish tends to produce more mucus especially in the gills; the reason now seems to be due to the irritant property of salt--the fish is trying to get away from it.

I have an interesting measurement for fish. Dr. Stanley Weitzman, who is Emeritus Research Scientist at the Department of Ichthyology of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington and an acknowledged authority on characoid fishes, writes that 100 ppm of salt is the maximum for characins, and there are several species that show considerable stress leading to death at 60 ppm. 100 ppm is equal to .38 of one gram of salt per gallon of water. One level teaspoon holds six grams of salt, so 1 tsp of salt per gallon equates to more than 15 times the tolerable amount. Livebearers have a higher tolerance (mollies sometimes exist in brackish water) so the salt may be safe for them.

Plants: when salt is added to the aquarium water, the water inside the plant cells is less dense so it escapes through the cells. The result is that the plant literally dries out, and will wilt. I've so far been unable to find a measurement of how much salt will be detrimental to plants; all authorities I have found do note that some species are more sensitive than others, and all recommend no salt in planted aquaria.


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