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post #1 of 6 Old 05-30-2010, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Sick Guarmi?

I cant figure it out. My Guarmi's are VERY lazy. Hardly ever see them. they are always in the back of the tank under the plants. I did just realize my water was 85 degrees F could they have been chilling in the shade because it was too hot?
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post #2 of 6 Old 05-30-2010, 06:14 PM
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they might be stressed due to the excessive heat but I dont know what kind you have and at what temperature it lives at.
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2 dwarf guarmi. 1 flame the other blue powder.
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It could be rather natural behaviour, but if excessive then there could be a problem. I was going to refer you to our fish profile, but I noticed this species isn't there yet, so...

Temp range is 72-82 so 85 is rather warm; 3 degrees may not seem like much to you and me, but it is to a fish. They are quiet sedate fish that frequently cruise among floating plants, like most all gourami; they come from swamps and marshes in Asia where the water is very still and thick with plants. I mention this because while it may be natural for them to be cruising among plants, they should not be just sitting motionless.

There is also a more-increasing disease problem with gourami, Dwarf gourami iridovirus. I know nothing of this personally, but from other comments I believe it is worth considering. Someone with direct experience may comment.

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It could be rather natural behaviour, but if excessive then there could be a problem. I was going to refer you to our fish profile, but I noticed this species isn't there yet, so...

Temp range is 72-82 so 85 is rather warm; 3 degrees may not seem like much to you and me, but it is to a fish. They are quiet sedate fish that frequently cruise among floating plants, like most all gourami; they come from swamps and marshes in Asia where the water is very still and thick with plants. I mention this because while it may be natural for them to be cruising among plants, they should not be just sitting motionless.

There is also a more-increasing disease problem with gourami, Dwarf gourami iridovirus. I know nothing of this personally, but from other comments I believe it is worth considering. Someone with direct experience may comment.

Byron.
thank you Byron I did lower the temp and near instantly as the temp dropped they became much more active. I will continue to keep an eye on them just in case though
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thank you Byron I did lower the temp and near instantly as the temp dropped they became much more active. I will continue to keep an eye on them just in case though
Glad to hear that seems to have been the issue, so not serious. Unless you have other fish in with them that need high temps, I would recommend around 78F as a normal temp for a community. Some fish need it warmer (the Chocolate Gourami, Blue Ram, discus, etc) and some are better cooler (neons at 75-76 for instance). At warmer temp, oxygen is less and this means the fish have to respirate more, plus the warmer they are the more energy and "wear and tear" on them. B.

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