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post #21 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 11:09 AM
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None taken Romad, to be honest i wanted to suggest shooting the fish if not with a normal gun with a BB gun, both work just fine but since not everyone has guns or BB guns i suggested the next fast and pain free method. Used this method for killing large fish when i went fishing and wanted to keep one or two fish(like big bass, catfish, carp, etc).
I like fast kills, that way you can be 100% sure there was no pain. It just seems to me that all that time it takes you to prepare the clove oil thing, mixing and shaking is time that the animal spends in pain.

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post #22 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 11:25 AM
Well according to myth-busters any kind of sudden shock to a contained body of water will cause the vibrations to severely damage fish swim bladders. They were testing "shooting fish in a barrel" and found out that if u fir a bullet into a barrel with fish in it, you might hit one but all the fish will die. I would imagine it to be extremely painful 2 second death...

Also, the extra work done to put a fish down could be interpreted as a form of empathy since it kinda shows remorse and understanding of the fact that the euthanizer is about to take an animal's life.

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post #23 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 11:33 AM
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Well according to myth-busters any kind of sudden shock to a contained body of water will cause the vibrations to severely damage fish swim bladders. They were testing "shooting fish in a barrel" and found out that if u fir a bullet into a barrel with fish in it, you might hit one but all the fish will die. I would imagine it to be extremely painful 2 second death...

Also, the extra work done to put a fish down could be interpreted as a form of empathy since it kinda shows remorse and understanding of the fact that the euthanizer is about to take an animal's life.
Lol. You do not shoot it in the tank, jeez.
The extra work to put it down is just time the animal spends in agony. I can find no empathy in prelonging pain.

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post #24 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 11:42 AM
well i think romad's method is a lot like putting a fish on morphine and then pulling the plug.. I dont think there's more time spent in pain than just chopping the fish's head off or shooting it... Also, i like to think that if i were to be put down, i would want a peaceful death, not gun in the face or guillotine... so i would extend that sentiment to the animals i keep.
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post #25 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 12:12 PM
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Lol. You do not shoot it in the tank, jeez.
The extra work to put it down is just time the animal spends in agony. I can find no empathy in prelonging pain.
LOL. Hopefully no-ones ever tried that one.

Any time we have to euthanize no matter what the method it's a pretty crappy experience. And when using the clove oil/vodka method, some of the vodka is reserved for me prior to putting the fish down.

Animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.

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post #26 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 12:54 PM
Romad, its how dynamite fishing work. The stick of dynamite send shockwaves so powerful that it kills all the ffish around it and they float to the top to be collected.
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post #27 of 35 Old 10-22-2010, 01:34 PM
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Sorry about your swordtail. I hate putting fish down. I would never chop off the head of any fish. That would make me feel so bad. We all have had to put fish down at one time or another and it's sad if you have a fish for 1 week or several years as they are our pets just like any other pet that we love.

If your tank is only 10 gal. A swordtail is not the fish for such a small tank.Maybe a 20 gal. is better for a fish that size. I would suggest getting endlers, smaller in size then guppies, Betta or a small schooling fish like some kind of tetra. I have had great luck with Harlequen Rasboras as they are very hardy for a tetra. A small group of 3-5. Red cherry shrimps do well in a small tank also with endlers if the intake is covered with a netting to pervent the fish from getting sucked in. Maybe a Mystery snail to make the small tank interesting.If you like livebearers just so you know Platies are really pretty but they are big waste producers and you must to water changes offen because of this also livebearers produce babies every month so if you do not have a spare tank to raise the babies go with male only as females are always pregnate and can produce babies for several months with out a male if you get them at a pet store.

Sorry again about your Swordtail. I hope you find a replacement for him but wait awhile before getting any new fish as you do not want the new fish to get the disease that your swordtail got until the water tests check out fine .
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post #28 of 35 Old 10-23-2010, 12:00 PM
what??? waste a bullet just to put down a fish.you gotta be kidding me.the anesthetic isn't bought from the pharmacy but the lfs.i used it to put my arowan to sleep before doing a minor operation on him.

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post #29 of 35 Old 10-23-2010, 03:55 PM
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what??? waste a bullet just to put down a fish.you gotta be kidding me.
It's just a bullet, i didnt say you need to throw the gun away afterwards!

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post #30 of 35 Old 10-26-2010, 04:18 PM
lol the cops might come knocking at the door

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3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
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