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post #161 of 165 Old 06-27-2012, 03:59 PM
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Hey, that is really very nice. Well done.

My only suggestion to consider--I can't not make one--is to break up the curving line of substrate plants in a couple spots. I think I know what you were thinking, but it might look a tad more natural if it wasn't a solid line side to side but broken up in 2 or 3 spots. Yoou could have the plants sort of clumped in those places.

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Hey, that is really very nice. Well done.

My only suggestion to consider--I can't not make one--is to break up the curving line of substrate plants in a couple spots. I think I know what you were thinking, but it might look a tad more natural if it wasn't a solid line side to side but broken up in 2 or 3 spots. Yoou could have the plants sort of clumped in those places.

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thanks byron :) i am going to do that as soon as i finish dealing with the ich. i lowered the temp today so the tank is going back to its normal 81 degrees. after that and the water change then i will try that set up.
i was thinking about my lighting and all the other day since i have plants now that require a bit more light. i dont want to do CO2 but i bought alternanthera rosafolia today and the lady said the colors will pop more with CO2. im scared to use it cuz of the pH swings and such esepcially if i use DIY yeast CO2. however, i figure with enough fish, maybe their respiration will provide me enough CO2? and i will turn off my airstone as well (turned it on through ich treatment since high temperature water has low O2 solubilty). should this be enough to have good plant growth? or should i cave and use CO2?
lighting though was my main question. how bright can the light be before it becomes too bright for an amazon biotope. i was looking at some fixtures they sold in my area. some are 24 or 30 inch fixtures fit for t5ho bulbs like 60 or 72 watts or something. it would be an alternative to what i have now. what do you think about both the lighting and the CO2?
i have also heard that some people use flourish excel? what exactly does that do? i dont understand the website's description too well.
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thanks byron :) i am going to do that as soon as i finish dealing with the ich. i lowered the temp today so the tank is going back to its normal 81 degrees. after that and the water change then i will try that set up.
i was thinking about my lighting and all the other day since i have plants now that require a bit more light. i dont want to do CO2 but i bought alternanthera rosafolia today and the lady said the colors will pop more with CO2. im scared to use it cuz of the pH swings and such esepcially if i use DIY yeast CO2. however, i figure with enough fish, maybe their respiration will provide me enough CO2? and i will turn off my airstone as well (turned it on through ich treatment since high temperature water has low O2 solubilty). should this be enough to have good plant growth? or should i cave and use CO2?
lighting though was my main question. how bright can the light be before it becomes too bright for an amazon biotope. i was looking at some fixtures they sold in my area. some are 24 or 30 inch fixtures fit for t5ho bulbs like 60 or 72 watts or something. it would be an alternative to what i have now. what do you think about both the lighting and the CO2?
i have also heard that some people use flourish excel? what exactly does that do? i dont understand the website's description too well.
It's up to you if you want to go high-tech with diffused CO2. But that means brighter light, and significantly more nutrient fertilizing, perhaps daily. I have never done this and probably never will; I'm happy with the plants i have.

Not all plants will manage in all tanks. Not all plants will live together. Some of this is a bit trial and error.

This thread is so long i can't remember what was or wasn't covered, but I'm fairly sure lighting was discussed. I'm not going into all that again.

Excel is a liquid carbon supplement. I won't use it. It is a chemical, we discussed this toxic stuff in another thread, here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...ifying-105102/

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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It's up to you if you want to go high-tech with diffused CO2. But that means brighter light, and significantly more nutrient fertilizing, perhaps daily. I have never done this and probably never will; I'm happy with the plants i have.

Not all plants will manage in all tanks. Not all plants will live together. Some of this is a bit trial and error.

This thread is so long i can't remember what was or wasn't covered, but I'm fairly sure lighting was discussed. I'm not going into all that again.

Excel is a liquid carbon supplement. I won't use it. It is a chemical, we discussed this toxic stuff in another thread, here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...ifying-105102/
ok i think i may skip out on the CO2. i was told that using a paintball DIY setup (which was the only one i was considering) was not going to be sufficient. if my fish can provide enough to get the kind of growth your tanks have then ill be happy :) since you have those results without CO2 then i am guessing i can as well if i can be as awesome as you. lighting i may buy just one more to spread the light evenly. we discussed that before in this thread. the front of my tank isnt getting much lighting, at least on the surface, so i may do that.
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