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post #1 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
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In serious need of help. 4.0 ammonia 6.0 ph

My brothers fish tank is in dire need of help. He has neglected it and i took it upon myself to check it out. I used my test kit and only did amonnia and ph before i came to write this, i am doing nitrite and nitrate now. I am going to do a 50% water cahnge now after i quickly get results for other things. It is a 55 gallon cichlid tank. Aqua clear 100 HOB filter, temp is 79 degrees. brb
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post #2 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 03:35 PM
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With that much ammonia you are going to have a tough time. I am honestly surprised the fish are alive. Just keep changing the water and vacuuming the tank out any waste. I know organic material decomposing releases acid, that is probably why the PH is so low. You may want to get a bag of crushed coral and put it in the filter to bring up the PH. Unfortunately there is no quick fix, just large daily water changes.
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post #3 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 03:37 PM
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HOpefully if your lucky that could be ammonium and not ammonia. Both show up on test kits unless you have a kit that shows only ammonia nh3. most dedect nh4.

This may explain why the fish are still alive. as nh4 is not toxic.

Good luck

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HOpefully if your lucky that could be ammonium and not ammonia. Both show up on test kits unless you have a kit that shows only ammonia nh3. most dedect nh4.

This may explain why the fish are still alive. as nh4 is not toxic.

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The problem he will have is that nh4 turns back into nh3 once the ph goes over 7.0, if I am not mistaken.
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post #5 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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doubt its ammonium, no plants to even change the stuff into anything, the nitrite was .25 and nitrate was 100

there were these big shells in the tank and i found a HUGE amount of old food in both of them, like a fist full

i know he loses a fish a month but he also overstocked the tank. I was asked to help quarantine a fish he had that was getting nipped and decided to go the extra mile after i saw a fish dead. Ive never seen ammonia like that, i didnt think the fish could be alive either. How should my water change schedule go. Should i do two today or one
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I have changed 100% of the water in a tank in one day without any problems. I would do at least 50-75% a day until the numbers stabilize. It sounds like once you get all the organic waste out of the tank things should stabilize.
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50 % done, still around 2 to 3 ppm, this is guna b frustrating
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post #8 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 05:41 PM
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Water changes, water changes, water changes. Your future is looking very wet. I can't believe anything is still alive with those numbers.

Good luck.

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Water changes, water changes, water changes. Your future is looking very wet. I can't believe anything is still alive with those numbers.

Good luck.
Thanks, I did the test twice to make sure I didnt mess up
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post #10 of 13 Old 02-18-2011, 06:03 PM
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I was just thinking about what this tank must have smelled like.

Where was this tank at? I can't imagine having a tank that is that dirty in my bedroom or living room.
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