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Old 01-11-2007, 12:22 AM   #21
 
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By the way, Charles, pls delete the word 'best'...
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Botias are very sensitive to water quality and demand the best purest water that is possible. They are sometimes called indicator fish as they will be the first to get an illness if one is present. They are also very sensitive to tank medication. If needed, use the medication at half strength. They are egg layers. Some scatterers and some deposit them onto under growth and under caves.
...'tis a bit redundant with the word 'purest'. Botias aren't exactly sensitive. Most of them are quite hardy enough and the saying that clowns get ich easily is exaggerated IMO. It has never happened in years of my experience. Unless the owner introduced an afflicted fish or did anything quite stressing to the fish, I doubt loaches will ever contract ich so easily.

I'll look into other paragraphs.:)
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:25 AM   #22
 
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Botias are very sensitive to water quality and demand the best purest water that is possible. They are sometimes called indicator fish as they will be the first to get an illness if one is present. They are also very sensitive to tank medication. If needed, use the medication at half strength. They are egg layers. Some scatterers and some deposit them onto under growth and under caves.
...'tis a bit redundant with the word 'purest'. Botias aren't exactly sensitive. Most of them are quite hardy enough and the saying that clowns get ich easily is exaggerated IMO. It has never happened in years of my experience. Unless the owner introduced an afflicted fish or did anything quite stressing to the fish, I doubt loaches will ever contract ich so easily.

I'll look into other paragraphs.:)
lol okay i dont know how i overlooked that... :/ ill change that thanx for pointing that out.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:52 AM   #23
 
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I would like to restate the fact that the ich will most likely appear only when the fish is stressed. Pls note that the ich is not part of the tank's ecosystem. How it appears is because it was already introduced undetected in your tank via the use of water and other equipments from ich-infested tanks or failing to quarantine the fish infested by ich. So like I said, the fact that loaches catch ich so easily is exaggerated unless the ich has served as a 'contaminant' to your tank and remained undetected until the loaches' immunity drops putting them to a high susceptibility to various illnesses.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:48 PM   #24
 
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ive read an article saying that PETA tainted the aquarist name saying that fish are cheap toys that are replaced when needed.....the nerve!!!
You'll realize that I'm never a fan of PETA and never impressed with some of their works. For all I know, they may be doing great things but some things they did were quite exaggerated. Their trend for saying fish are cheap toys is dangerous. With that, the hobby would never exist until now.

Great article, Charles.
I believe what they are trying to say, quite poorly, is that the fishkeeping hobby is unethical because the mainstream fishkeepers simply buy another fish when one dies. In general, people do not bother to cycle their tank, the industry trains people to keep large fish in small tanks to boost revenue. Their claim is entirely true. The problem is PETA would rather focus on that negative instead of using their resources to educate the world on how to properly become a fishkeeper. That is why PETA always pulls the rug from underneath themselves; when they have a valid point they flood it with over generalizations and allow the zealots speak on their behalf.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:52 PM   #25
 
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As for PETA, not worth disussing here. IMHO

As for the article, very nice collection of works, has a lot going for it. The only thing I would add is fish are very adaptive also. Even many saltwater fish have to deal with chaging salinity in the water over the course of the year from storms and runnoff. Freshwater fish deal with the same thing, storms make water cloudy and turbid and drouts concentrate chemicals in the water. Abrupt changes make a fish unhappy. If the changes are spread over a period of time, fish can adapt to them, even in the aquarium.

Hope your quest to work for a LFS pans out some day. Just make sure that where you go to work wants someone to actually inform the people that buy fish of the right thing to do. You also have to realize that there are those that won't listen to any advice and will buy a new 55 gallon tank and all the fixing and come and get fish the next or same day. You won't agree with it but comany policy mau say you have to sell them the fish.

Best of luck and nice article. The only other suggestion is to state the sources so there is no issue with plagerism.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:02 PM   #26
 
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Bristlenose Pleco(e)s

Bristle nose plecoes are fish that originate from Asian fast flowing streams.
All Loricariidae originate from South Amercia, wrong continent bud!
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:20 PM   #27
 
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Bristlenose Pleco(e)s

Bristle nose plecoes are fish that originate from Asian fast flowing streams.
All Loricariidae originate from South Amercia, wrong continent bud!
I think you may have confuse it with the spiny headed hillstream loach, which does originate in fast flowing, east Asian streams.

One thing you can do to make sure you're correct about fish is to look them up on fishbase.com. They're not always 100% right, but at least if you're wrong, it'll be fore the right reasons. (Heck, Axelrod even got a picture of the wrong fish for the Siamese Algae Eater in his Atlas of Tropical Fish.)
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:22 PM   #28
 
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well i already have a bibliography that...INCLUDES Fish Forum yay! so no problem with that.okay illmake some chagnes tonight. and sorry for the wrong continent XD. i might put fish forum on my project board hahah..seriously i like the style of the banner.
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