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post #11 of 22 Old 04-08-2013, 02:15 PM
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I just recently set up a new 60L tank and used Roman Gravel speckled sand. It was an 8kg bag, which gave me a good 3cm at front depth, and 5ish at the back. The 8kg took me 2 hours to clean using the bucket and hose method, it turned the tank cloudy for about 12 hours, but I did use a polyester filter pad insert to speed the clearing stuff up. No chemicals. The water still is a bit misty, however I remember it being a few weeks before the water settled on a fresh tank with gravel so I'm not worrying about it. I love my sand! It's fab!!!
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post #12 of 22 Old 04-08-2013, 02:38 PM
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I plan on switching my tank to sand once it starts to get warmer outside. ive had sand before and have never had a problem with these gas pockets. some would release when my hands were in the tank or when fish would sometimes dig. never been a serious concern to me.
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post #13 of 22 Old 04-12-2013, 11:07 AM Thread Starter
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First thanks alot for the input!!!! a coouple more questions though...lol I am useing a aquaclear 70 hob filter should I put a something like foam insert like they use for smaller critters on the intake tube,and also as far as stocking instead of sharks could I go with a pair of firemouth meekis,some tiger barbs corys and small pleco maybe,or maybe someone has any other Ideas.

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post #14 of 22 Old 04-12-2013, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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oops the foam insert is to keep the sand out of the pump....should have been more informitive

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First thanks alot for the input!!!! a coouple more questions though...lol I am useing a aquaclear 70 hob filter should I put a something like foam insert like they use for smaller critters on the intake tube,and also as far as stocking instead of sharks could I go with a pair of firemouth meekis,some tiger barbs corys and small pleco maybe,or maybe someone has any other Ideas.

again thanks
Leave out the Tiger Barb with Firemouth, the TB are too boistrous for the sedate FM. Check the profile for the Firemouth [click the name].

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post #16 of 22 Old 04-12-2013, 11:23 AM
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A few points:

Just to reaffirm, the gas pockets are not an issue unless you go deep sand, 3" or more.

If your filter intake is off the bottom, maybe midway up the tank, sand will not be a problem UNLESS you don't rinse it really well AND turn it off when doing water work (changes, planting, moving substrate for any reason). Even then, with a HOB it would serve you well to take the filter off and clean out the impeller area as the sand can settle in there and cause wear and tear on the workings. Foam on the intake will help.

55 gallon, I would consider going to a canister if you've the budget, they don't need to be expensive and the pump is on the clean side of the flow.

Add to your corys, they should be 6 or more. In a 55 I would say 10 is a good start for them. This will help if you go with a semi aggressive fish too.

Consider plants. They are great for the fish. You would need to make sure that your light was adequate firat though.

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First thanks alot for the input!!!! a coouple more questions though...lol I am useing a aquaclear 70 hob filter should I put a something like foam insert like they use for smaller critters on the intake tube,and also as far as stocking instead of sharks could I go with a pair of firemouth meekis,some tiger barbs corys and small pleco maybe,or maybe someone has any other Ideas.

again thanks
I'm using AC70's and have pool filter sand and NEVER have any sand in the filter.
As another member mentioned, make sure you don't use ultra fine sand, wash/rinse the sand well to remove 'fines', have the input strainer about 4" above the surface of the sand and turn the filter off if you're going to be disturbing the sand a lot for some reason.

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post #18 of 22 Old 04-12-2013, 07:27 PM
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Thumbs up cheap sand

I have a 90 gal tank and I also wanted to go with sand so I did a lot of research and found that you can buy Quikrete commercial grade medium sand at Home Depot for $4 for 50 pounds. This sand has already been washed, kiln dried and screened. If you buy just regular play sand, you have to wash it and from what I hear it takes a really long time and is just a pain in the butt. I bought 3 bags and used about 2 1/4 for my tank. I just opened the bag and dumped it in. No washing, no prepping. It is awesome! I love the sand in the tank. My tank is the cleanest it has ever been. Its very easy to vacuum. You don't have to suck up all the gravel, you just skim over the top of the sand and all the yuck gets sucked up. The fish seems to like it and if you have any fish that like to bury themselves, this is the way to go.

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you can buy Quikrete commercial grade medium sand ay to go. ]
I contacted the company to check how pure their play sand product was and was satisfied that there were no concrete materials in it. They run the commercial sand through the equipment after the cement processing until it runs clean. Then they do play sand. I wouldn't use anything but play sand due to this processing otherwise you take the chance that there may be toxic material in the sand. .

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post #20 of 22 Old 04-13-2013, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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Just finished up cleaning and installing the sand in my new 55 gal tank and I love the looks !!!!!! Zephyrah you are right the quickete is the way to go.I was dreading the cleaning process because here in Michigan its still snowing LOL.So I started to clean it and it didnt take but about a hour in all ( Cleaning the sand and filling the tank.) I really want to thank all of you for the advice I am so glad I went with sand!!!!

Thanks again ,Joe
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2 green corys
5 zebra danios
5 harlequin Rasbo's

10 gal .
fully cycled no fish

New 55 gal
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