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post #21 of 28 Old 12-18-2009, 12:41 PM
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Water is of great concern because of ground water/water tables underneath Arizona and the region. Ground water is being withdrawn at a exponential rate as compared to the rate that it's being replenished.
bingo. Also, considering how much Phoenix/Tuscon have been expanding, there really isn't room for more water using.

But anyhow, that filter-idea sounds a lot better.
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post #22 of 28 Old 12-18-2009, 06:15 PM
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great post, very informative!



This part however, concerns me.
Living in Arizona, I'd feel guilty if I used that much water to wash out sand...

I'll just stick with gravel for now. Although someday, later down the road, I would definitely like to do sand.
Don't sweat it man. I say use the water to do what makes you happy. There's tons of uppity schmucks who spend an hour in the shower because they have money. Not to excuse poor behavior with poor behavior, but you are making a better environment for the fish. So the enviro-nuts won't get mad at you. And do you think Al Gore thinks about global warming as he leaves his 20 times more energy using in a month than the avg. American uses in a year house to board his private jet? No, he doesn't. I say use the water lol

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post #23 of 28 Old 01-14-2010, 07:31 PM
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I have heard from more than input that you cannot use an under sustrate filter with sand. I do not understand this at all, if you layer gravel at the bottom to keep the sand from clogging the holes in the plastic sheet and then add a cloth layer, then top off with sand, it will make a most effective filter!

If I am missing something plewase give some input?
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post #24 of 28 Old 01-14-2010, 07:46 PM
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I would think that the sand layer on top of the cloth would still restrict water flow to the point where the UGF wouldn't be accomplishing much.

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post #25 of 28 Old 01-15-2010, 09:49 PM
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OK! 2 things...One/ i have the sand rinsed and ready to go(i hav eno filter a bin set up for fish if needed) do i need to get my fish out of the tank to put it in or follow iamntbatman and just use a cup to pour it in??? 2nd/ Could i put a live plant in the sand just to liven it up a bit...should i put some gravel around it if need be(i got another 5 pound bag)???

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post #26 of 28 Old 02-28-2010, 02:03 AM
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Im new to this forum but not new to fish. I really do wish i would have read this tho before i started me new 100 gal tank! I have been buying sand from the pet stores. I have been paying $24 for a bag 20gal sand and now i see this and feel so dumb for spending that much money. I could have used all that extra money for lace rock. I have only bought 2 bags so far and only is really enough just to cover the bottom. Im heading to Home Depot tomorrow and picking up a $4 bag and finnishing the tank off. I do love the way the white sand really sets off my dark lace rock. It will look amazing when done with rays on the bottom and arowana on the top

This play sand is fine for sting rays right?
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post #27 of 28 Old 02-28-2010, 11:45 AM
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Im new to this forum but not new to fish. I really do wish i would have read this tho before i started me new 100 gal tank! I have been buying sand from the pet stores. I have been paying $24 for a bag 20gal sand and now i see this and feel so dumb for spending that much money. I could have used all that extra money for lace rock. I have only bought 2 bags so far and only is really enough just to cover the bottom. Im heading to Home Depot tomorrow and picking up a $4 bag and finnishing the tank off. I do love the way the white sand really sets off my dark lace rock. It will look amazing when done with rays on the bottom and arowana on the top

This play sand is fine for sting rays right?
Yes, perfect. The play sand is dark, so mixing it with light sand will create a mixture, you might want to test it first to see if you like it, maybe in one front corner so you can easily remove that bit if you don't like the effect.. If you dump the dark in everywhere, it will be impossible to get it out without taking all of the sand out.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #28 of 28 Old 03-01-2010, 05:11 AM
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The play sand I have is pretty darn light in color. The color probably depends on the local source for the sand. It's just inert sand though, so it should be just fine for your rays.

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