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post #1 of 13 Old 12-30-2010, 05:14 PM Thread Starter
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I have got 2 horse face loaches and they seem fine but are unable to bury themself as have medium sized pea gravel, i plan on getting some coral sand, is the 1mm best or the 5mm/10mm one?
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I have got 2 horse face loaches and they seem fine but are unable to bury themself as have medium sized pea gravel, i plan on getting some coral sand, is the 1mm best or the 5mm/10mm one?
Would go with playsand found at lawn and garden store or ACE hardware.
Coral sand is likely to raise the hardness level and pH if it indeed contains coral.

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Would go with playsand found at lawn and garden store or ACE hardware.
Coral sand is likely to raise the hardness level and pH if it indeed contains coral.
+1, just what i was gonna say. Pool filter sand is another option.
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I have got 2 horse face loaches and they seem fine but are unable to bury themself as have medium sized pea gravel, i plan on getting some coral sand, is the 1mm best or the 5mm/10mm one?
Do you have any pics of your loaches?? I would love to see them. I can't find any around my area and I think they are so cute.

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I have got 2 horse face loaches and they seem fine but are unable to bury themself as have medium sized pea gravel, i plan on getting some coral sand, is the 1mm best or the 5mm/10mm one?
I think they can bury themselves in gravel. Kuhlis do it. But sand would be preferable.

I believe crushed coral will raise the pH, so if that's something you want go for it. The 5-10 mm sand is gravel. 1-3 mm is a good size grain.

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Do you have any pics of your loaches?? I would love to see them. I can't find any around my area and I think they are so cute.
Have a look at this link, its a gallery of my fish and the loaches are there too, they are so much like snagglepuss!.
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I think they can bury themselves in gravel. Kuhlis do it. But sand would be preferable.

I believe crushed coral will raise the pH, so if that's something you want go for it. The 5-10 mm sand is gravel. 1-3 mm is a good size grain.
I think my gravel is too big for them to bury themself, as its medium dorset pea gravel. If anyone can see any suitable sand i can use on uk ebay let me know., Only want about 2kg worth but cheapest most suitable stuff.

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I think my gravel is too big for them to bury themself, as its medium dorset pea gravel. If anyone can see any suitable sand i can use on uk ebay let me know., Only want about 2kg worth but cheapest most suitable stuff.
There are 2 kinds of "horseface" loaches - one buries itself and one doesn't. The one that doesn't bury itself is the long nosed loach. Long nosed loach and horseface loach are sometimes used interchangeably, but they are 2 different species.

Pool filter sand is the best sand you can get for the money.

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There are 2 kinds of "horseface" loaches - one buries itself and one doesn't. The one that doesn't bury itself is the long nosed loach. Long nosed loach and horseface loach are sometimes used interchangeably, but they are 2 different species.
I was told it was a horse face loach so now you confused me. have a look at the pics and video i have of it at this link http://tankupdate.blogspot.com/

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I was told it was a horse face loach so now you confused me. have a look at the pics and video i have of it at this link http://tankupdate.blogspot.com/
The two look very much alike (especially when small), and it's not uncommon for the long nose loach to be misidentified as a horse face. I'm not saying yours isn't a horseface loach - just pointing out the possibility that you may not have the fish you think you do.

If you switch to sand and it still doesn't bury itself, it's probably a long nose.

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There is some uncertainty over the specific species of what are commonly called "horse faced" loaches. There are six species in the genus, with wide geographical distribution ranges, and some authors feel the fish available from time to time may be from more than one species. In our profiles I used the most commonly (assumed) species, and there are photos, which to me looks like your fish. But yours are young. Click on the shaded name to go to the profile.

On the gravel, if you have a horse faced loach, you should change the substrate. I had good luck with "sand" grade gravel, 1mm in size. As the fish mature they will be buried most of the day, becoming somewhat nocturnal. But not providing them with this opportunity could cause stress, leading to poor health and earl;y demise, so I would certainly change your gravel.

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