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post #11 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 01:47 PM
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I disagree with the ban, but I think the current system does need to be improved.

Goldfish abuse should not be compared to hunting-
The death is relatively sudden, and for a purpose (food)

Keeping goldfish in a bowl should be more compared to keeping a cat or dog in a cage all of it's life.

Now I disagree with a ban, but what about a license?

Don't get me wrong, nothing expensive, nothing complicated. Just a 3-4 question quiz on goldfish, and the license is like $1 a year. The money can go to fish conservation or something.
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post #12 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 01:48 PM
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last time I had mcdonalds was.... I don't remember. how about you guys
What? they wanna ban hamburgers too!?!?!?!?!?

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post #13 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 02:10 PM
they better not or I'l have a cow.

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post #14 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 02:11 PM
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they better not or I'l have a cow.
Was that pun intended?

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post #15 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 02:14 PM
maybe, maybe not

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post #16 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 10:05 PM
and I'm eating goldfish crackers as I read this..... hmmmm.....
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post #17 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 10:20 PM
okay - while I don't agree with the ban, I do believe that people need to be better informed when they buy any pet.

I started this hobby with 4 common goldfish in a 14g tank. The fish store lady didn't tell me about cycling a tank, and told me the goldfish would only grow to fit the tank. Can anyone see the disater coming?

Also, our local park has a pond that was known for trout fishing - now all you can catch there - goldfish. Why? because someone didn't know how to "get rid" of a pet properly.

All responsible pet ownership requires good knowledge. The pet stores need to be more responsible for providing that information - but the owner needs to be more responsible for learning.

Also - keeping fish has been a godsend because my youngest daughter has autism. It helps with her therapy, it helps calm her down, and they keep me sane. I can't imagine anyone telling me I can't have my fish because I'd go all mama bear on them....
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post #18 of 25 Old 06-17-2011, 11:14 PM
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I disagree with the ban, but I think the current system does need to be improved.

Goldfish abuse should not be compared to hunting-
The death is relatively sudden, and for a purpose (food)

Keeping goldfish in a bowl should be more compared to keeping a cat or dog in a cage all of it's life.

Now I disagree with a ban, but what about a license?

Don't get me wrong, nothing expensive, nothing complicated. Just a 3-4 question quiz on goldfish, and the license is like $1 a year. The money can go to fish conservation or something.
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post #19 of 25 Old 06-18-2011, 02:26 AM
I also agree with paperclipgirl. They should try to educate people instead of banning things. knowledge goes a lot farther than keeping people ignorant. A lot of times when you buy fish at the big chains(petco,petsmart) the employees don't have a clue and misinform you about everything possible. It's sorta like the Betta in the small cup! I hate it when people think a fish can thrive in a cup of water. Just because it's not dead doesn't mean it will thrive, but the people at those stores will tell you its fine and great for the fish because he likes to live in a very cramped cup. WTH!
I know this is off topic but it bugs me that they ban smoking yet still sell it and use the profits. If you are going to ban something don't sell what you are trying to ban. (This would also be WTH!!)

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post #20 of 25 Old 06-18-2011, 05:19 AM
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Indeed, having some sort of quiz that the customer takes before hand, like a questionnaire, when they're trying to buy fish would be very helpful. Kind of a different thing, but when I took my gun safety test, it just went over the basics of gun safety, and was quick and easy. Lots of good, basic information, and totally worth the time. Having something similar which can be kept on record would be a good thing, or maybe having a questionnaire for each family of fish, such as catfish, characins, goldfish, cichclids, and livebearers that test the buyer if they really know enough about their purchase before hand.

I was at a petsmart the other day, and was helping another customer buy some plants by giving some advice on what was good and what was not. I think the petsmart workers didn't like that I talked to the guy, cause they started giving me weird looks afterwards. Honestly, sometimes the huge lack of common sense astonishes me. Just the other day, at my new favorite LFS, the owner got a phone call from a customer who JUST bought some fish, and he warned against adding those fish in with the current fish they had, as their current ones were super aggressive, and the customers didn't want to hear anything against buying the fish, and lo and behold they call and ask if they can give/trade in their aggressive fish for store credit. Its unbelievable.

I go with the saying that knowledge is power. The more you know, the better off you'll be.
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