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post #11 of 19 Old 03-14-2010, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
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I'd have thought just using the mg scale and add whatever (off the wall figure I have no idea w/out testing) 0.5mg calcium per 10g tank water to achieve X pH/KH; sounded good in my head to use a lil medicine scale in MG and that way I'd know exactly how much to use. Of cause all tested in buckets/ bin OUTSIDE my tanks!
Oh no I'd def not just get *something* my neighbor runs a organic supplements/ vitamins manufactured right on site so I'd DEF know exactly what's in there (plus she could wisk me up whatever mixture I like eg 2/3 calcium 1/3 mag).

Epsom Salt I'd rather NOT wanna use after all reading I done....

Hm them lemme check in the SW section of big fish stores/ chain stores what I can find there maybe for dolomite.

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post #12 of 19 Old 03-16-2010, 04:32 AM
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Dolomite is CaMg(CO3)2, so contains calcium, magnesium and carbonate.

GH is a measure of the combined amounts of calcium and magnesium, but I'm not sure how necessary the magnesium is if your goal is hard water. For example, in African cichlid tanks people achieve high levels of hardness using only crushed coral substrates and/or limestone or things like that. Essentially, almost all of their GH is KH. In marine tanks, of course, magnesium is more of an issue but I don't think you need to worry about magnesium shortages if you use only crushed coral rather than dolomite to raise your KH/GH.

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post #13 of 19 Old 03-16-2010, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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I have yet to drive around see if I can find crushed coral anywhere. But then we're talking about the shrimp tanks so I have no HOB or Canister there to put it into cause they all run on sponges and I'm not sure how nice it'll look to have a sock in there with coral...I'm testing Baking Soda since yesterday in a bucket see how that does over time, considering backing soda is NaHCO3 that's what i'd need.
And as dim as it sounds I also ran around the property yesterday trying to find diff rocks to test with acid see what bubbles nice (meaning rich in calcium) so I could add it to the decor - My rocks here don't bubble up arg! So if anyone wants nice colorful yellowish-orange rock decor that's NOT going to raise your hardness lemme know I got PLENTY here.

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If you're trying to obtain a particular ph, kh, gh, in a tank for a certain fish species I would be tempted to do RO water and add the chemicals in the amounts directed to achieve the desired ph/kh/gh and fill the tank with and also to use for wc's. It works for sw tanks. The trick to having it be right all the time is to start with pure filtered RO water and add the same amount each time for a set water parameter to be achieved.

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If you're trying to obtain a particular ph, kh, gh, in a tank for a certain fish species I would be tempted to do RO water and add the chemicals in the amounts directed to achieve the desired ph/kh/gh and fill the tank with and also to use for wc's. It works for sw tanks. The trick to having it be right all the time is to start with pure filtered RO water and add the same amount each time for a set water parameter to be achieved.
Honey pie uhm had you read my parameters from my tap water? I have R/O coming from my tap and that's exactly my problem here is having R/O when I need some more zest to it for the shrimp

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Honey pie uhm had you read my parameters from my tap water? I have R/O coming from my tap and that's exactly my problem here is having R/O when I need some more zest to it for the shrimp
If you truly have R/O treated water from the tap,then perhaps a water spigot outside the house is not hooked up to this system , and might yield harder water?

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No LOL we have no hardness here; even tested the well water AND the pond's water the way the water here is filtered through all these layers of non-calcium rocks and then either brought up via well or pumped down from the city we ain't got no hardness unless someone will add something to our water here
Which I mean for Tetra tanks that's great - Shrimp not so much lol

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No LOL we have no hardness here; even tested the well water AND the pond's water the way the water here is filtered through all these layers of non-calcium rocks and then either brought up via well or pumped down from the city we ain't got no hardness unless someone will add something to our water here
Which I mean for Tetra tanks that's great - Shrimp not so much lol

Then were it me, I would use dolomite as Byron suggested ,or crushed coral that I spoke of earlier in another thread. Both work gradually, and would last a long while before becoming exhausted. You could place it in a mesh bag and perhaps hide it with some plants or wood if placing it in a filter is not an option.

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I know and I agree sounds awesome lol but I looked around the stores here in town yesterday and couldn't find any and its gonna be a while before I'll be in Nashville again and possibly find some there and I just can't have the shrimp sit in this water for months now; that's why I am testing the baking soda in a bucket right now....Gotta be creative when you live in the stix

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