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Old 01-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #11
 
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That's what I've heard!! Actually, I heard SAE's and Flagfish will both eat it, although I have also read that they might, and then again they might not. I also heard today that a SAE is different from a Flying Fox and is much "kinder". True?

With my 40 gal tank there is enough algae in there to choke a horse!!!

I'm moving the fish to a smaller tank because the 46 gallon bowfront is just taking up too much room. The barbs are coming around...
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:54 AM   #12
 
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That's what I've heard!! Actually, I heard SAE's and Flagfish will both eat it, although I have also read that they might, and then again they might not. I also heard today that a SAE is different from a Flying Fox and is much "kinder". True?

With my 40 gal tank there is enough algae in there to choke a horse!!!

I'm moving the fish to a smaller tank because the 46 gallon bowfront is just taking up too much room. The barbs are coming around...
im not so sure on your stock but could you not buy some good sized mollies they will make mince meat of it or A SMALL pleco or maybe even a clown loach i have seen mine eating BBA but not sure how much they will eat

but my white sail-fin mollies will demolish it
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:28 PM   #13
 
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There is actually a 4" clown loach in that tank that has absolutely no interest in eating that algae. I may add a Siamese Algae Eater in there and hope for the best!!
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:49 PM   #14
 
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There is actually a 4" clown loach in that tank that has absolutely no interest in eating that algae. I may add a Siamese Algae Eater in there and hope for the best!!
ive not actually seen my clowns eat it but they do seem to hover round it enough but think they probs just hunting food caught in it

mollies would be the best for this i am not too familiar with the SAE but mollies eat it when full so every now and then i give them a starve day and it all goes not to be seen for months on end lol
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:47 AM   #15
 
First, I was just listening to an interview of Dr. Tim Hovanec by the Baily Bros (Tom and Nevin) and Dr. Tim said after the proper dosage of 'One and Only', you could add up to 1" per gallon of fish and it would be fine.
On the conservative side, you might move half the stock, wait a few days or a week and move the rest. Monitor the water params and the fish and do a water change as/if necessary.

Second, we tend to overlook the root cause of (algae) problems like this. Most problem algae's develop when there's excess nutrients in the water and too much light. Were you doing weekly water changes of sufficient quantities? How about tank maintenance to reduce decaying organic compounds? Does your tank have living plants to use nutrients and purify the water? What type and how long are your lights on? Is there excess room light (tank near a window)?

Just some thoughts. Sometimes when you're not looking a tank just gets away from you and some serious measures are needed. Sortof like spring cleaning.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:21 PM   #16
 
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Thank you for your very helpful comments. I am totally convinced that 90% of my algae problems resulted from overfeeding my fish. I am very good about regular water and filter changes. The tank is located in a room that gets light through a skylight, but I had no algae problems for years with that tank in that location.

I like to blame it on (in addition to myself) adding a pair of Kribensis to that tank and them multiplying like rabbits! I felt compelled to feed the babies (when I saw them).

I am going to get a SAE and hope that the tank can be cleaned up and have severely cut back on the amount of food I'm feeding them. If not, next summer I'll tear the tank down and start again. Older and wiser.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:48 AM   #17
 
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Thank you for your very helpful comments. I am totally convinced that 90% of my algae problems resulted from overfeeding my fish. I am very good about regular water and filter changes. The tank is located in a room that gets light through a skylight, but I had no algae problems for years with that tank in that location.

I like to blame it on (in addition to myself) adding a pair of Kribensis to that tank and them multiplying like rabbits! I felt compelled to feed the babies (when I saw them).

I am going to get a SAE and hope that the tank can be cleaned up and have severely cut back on the amount of food I'm feeding them. If not, next summer I'll tear the tank down and start again. Older and wiser.
i love the kribs they are awsome fish glad you said about kribs as i was going to suggest some loach as they are excellent at cleaning left over lol
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:29 PM   #18
 
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Thought I'd give an update of the SafeStart experience. It has been 11 days since I set up the tank, added SafeStart and 2 fish, waited 2 days and added 5 more fish, two days later added 1. So I have a total of 8 adult fish in this 20 gal long tank and I have had zero readings on ammonia, nitrite and nitrate all the way through. I'm cautiously impressed. The fish have all settled into their new quarters.

Remaining in their "old" 46 gal tank are 2 cories and Karl Katfish (the 8" pleco).
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