Originally Posted by fungambler
I lost all my goldfish about 3 months ago after some infected swordtails were delivered to my tank by my friend. I said NEVER again, but I have to do it I miss my goldfish.! I am hearing from pet stores here that you can set the tank up with the bacteria and dechlorinator and add the fish the SAME day. I want everyone's opinion here before I even think about doing that.
Also, I wonder if a bio-wheel filter is better than mine? I just have a dual whisper filter. The pet store people sell one by Marineland but it also takes
charcoal filters. I sure did want to get away from the charcoal thing, if there was another alternative.
Thanks in advance!
I haven't personally used any of those bacterializers and whatnot, but it seems like they have been suggested against throughout the forums, I guess its not as good as the real bacteria, and it ends up making the actual cycle just take alot longer before you end up with a truly healthy tank.
I actually just set up my 55 gallon goldfish tank probably less than a month ago, I built a small sump tank out of a 10 gallon, partitioned it into 4 sections, have the water flow through lava rock, filter floss, more filter floss and an ammonia reducing filter pad, then more lava rock and have a Maxi-jet 1200 pumping the water back into the tank.
I built a cheap pvc overflow for maybe 20 bucks to go into the sump, and made a nice waterfall for the return for probably 5 bucks.
The lava rock was a big bag at home depot for like 4 dollars, and the filter floss and ammonia pads were cheap as well.
All in all, the filtering I set up for it probably cost less than an expensive bio-wheel filter aimed at 55+ gallons, and I'd imagine it probably works just as well.
I set up the tank with playsand, some rocks and a few cheap plants and fake plants, let it sit for a few days and checked the levels were all well(just brought some water to my lfs) then grabbed 2 small goldfish(under 4") and acclimated them to it, since then I added one large goldfish(about 6-7") and one more small goldfish.
My ammonia level has stayed low to nil the entire time(I imagine at least partially from the ammonia pad) and I already have nitrates, so it seems that the tank actually cycled quite fast, and the goldfish have never seemed in poor health during the process.
I haven't done any water changes, only added 1 gallon once or twice a week when my sump gets close to not covering all of my lava rock.
I know it's a big long boring thing to read, but I thought I'd share my setup for a tank and such since it's the same situation you're starting, one small goldfish is a common, and the other 3 are all comets, and they all seem to get along just fine and be doing well, no signs of ich, finrot, or anything the like, and all of my levels seems to be doing well also.
When I was poking around it seemed like suggestions for buying a filter for the 55 gallon as a goldfish tank were either a sump, a canister, or two large expensive bio-wheel filters, and since I'm both broke and cheap, I decided to go this route, hopefully whatever you end up doing goes well for you though, I love watching my goldfish glub around in their big tank.
If you want any help with the overflow, or sump tank, I'm glad to help you out with the little I know, I'm about as ameteur as anyone else, since I just got started with fishkeeping a few months ago, but I'm happy to share my good experiences, and my many mistakes if you like.