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Old 07-06-2013, 01:26 PM   #31
 
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Are you considering the LEDS? I would go with the fluval if you can. Which ones are in your store? That brand is very trustworthy and honors any failures. I have so many fluval products in my home I'm almost embarrassed to count them haha.
For any tube fixture if you go that route keep in mind the need for replacement. I have a solar meter to test my dragons light which is made by zoo-med and even though after 6months it seems to still look bright the tests show it's lost a ton of its effective light so with all fluorescents I've learned to go to the replace twice a year rule.

(Byron..the tank I was talking about is a 75gallon with these dimensions 48 1/2L x 18 1/2W x 21 3/8H running 1 48inch aqueon floramax tube. Then the other which I actually never switched the light to LED on that I mentioned is a 16g 20"L x 13"W x 18"H runs 1 aqueon full spectrum daylight t8 20" tube. I actually grow out my swords in that tank to put in all my other tanks. ....I'll admit it may be a fluke and I'm sure it's not the norm to have the luck with my plants under those conditions)
The 4-foot tube makes a bit of difference. If the OP is going to be buying a new fixture, which he is, then for a few dollars I would get something that we know will work, with some to spare. One can always reduce duration to compensate a bit, but the reverse doesnèt work if the intensity is insufficient to start. And remember, he is talking about a 24-inch tube over a 36-inch tank. My experience with the Aqueon so-called aquariuméplannt light over my 29g was a disaster. They make great fixtures, I have a couple, but the standard tubes that come with them go straight to recycling.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:34 AM   #32
 
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Well I'm definitely going with LED, I think I'll go with the double-bright LED from Marineland for my 20 gallon(Yes, I'm still focusing on the 20), and either Fluval or Marineland plant LED for the 45. Because I want to get a Versa-top for the 45, and it won't look pretty with a fluorescent fixture, and I don't want to have to replace the tubes every 6-9 months. The prices make me flinch as if I'm being punched in the arm, but I'll just collect for it. Now, I'll be looking back into our conversation but I'll just ask; will the double bright be good enough for my 16" H 20g for the plants? Again, it'll be my shrimp tank once the 45g is up and running, and the plants will more likely be Pygmy Chain Swords or Dwarf Sagittaria so it'll be small and be natural shelter for the shrimp. Probably have more swords, maybe Jungle Val. Depends, if I can find a good LFS that has them.

Random question; Would a Blue Neon Goby(Stiphodon atropurpureus) be okay to have with the red cherry shrimp? It'll grow to 2", eats algae(most bio-film type), so the sponge filter I'll have in the tank should be good as a food source, if not let me know. I was thinking of putting some water-worn rocks in a jar with the sun hitting it so it can grow some algae then put it inside the tank for the goby. It's a veggie lover, from what I've read at least.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:27 AM   #33
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Well I'm definitely going with LED, I think I'll go with the double-bright LED from Marineland for my 20 gallon(Yes, I'm still focusing on the 20), and either Fluval or Marineland plant LED for the 45. Because I want to get a Versa-top for the 45, and it won't look pretty with a fluorescent fixture, and I don't want to have to replace the tubes every 6-9 months. The prices make me flinch as if I'm being punched in the arm, but I'll just collect for it. Now, I'll be looking back into our conversation but I'll just ask; will the double bright be good enough for my 16" H 20g for the plants? Again, it'll be my shrimp tank once the 45g is up and running, and the plants will more likely be Pygmy Chain Swords or Dwarf Sagittaria so it'll be small and be natural shelter for the shrimp. Probably have more swords, maybe Jungle Val. Depends, if I can find a good LFS that has them.
I used a 24" Doublebright fixture over a 30" tank that was 22" deep with surface plants (mostly 50% coverage of duckweed) and the plants did well. I am not sure about those particular plants' light needs so I hesitate to say that they will be fine... the regular swords and valls are in my tank though. On a shallower and shorter tank with the same fixture the plants should be fine. The glass top with these fixtures makes a very nice low profile setup.

Shrimp like java moss as that is where I find shrimp the majority of the time... there and on the driftwood where they have crevices to hide in.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:37 AM   #34
 
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Well I'm definitely going with LED, I think I'll go with the double-bright LED from Marineland for my 20 gallon(Yes, I'm still focusing on the 20), and either Fluval or Marineland plant LED for the 45. Because I want to get a Versa-top for the 45, and it won't look pretty with a fluorescent fixture, and I don't want to have to replace the tubes every 6-9 months. The prices make me flinch as if I'm being punched in the arm, but I'll just collect for it. Now, I'll be looking back into our conversation but I'll just ask; will the double bright be good enough for my 16" H 20g for the plants? Again, it'll be my shrimp tank once the 45g is up and running, and the plants will more likely be Pygmy Chain Swords or Dwarf Sagittaria so it'll be small and be natural shelter for the shrimp. Probably have more swords, maybe Jungle Val. Depends, if I can find a good LFS that has them.

Random question; Would a Blue Neon Goby(Stiphodon atropurpureus) be okay to have with the red cherry shrimp? It'll grow to 2", eats algae(most bio-film type), so the sponge filter I'll have in the tank should be good as a food source, if not let me know. I was thinking of putting some water-worn rocks in a jar with the sun hitting it so it can grow some algae then put it inside the tank for the goby. It's a veggie lover, from what I've read at least.
Plants mentioned will be OK in the 20g. Jungle Val is huge, and you don't want it in a 20g. I've no idea on the LED lights mentioned for the 45g.

As for Stiphodon atropurpureus this fish needs a specific aquascape to replicate its habitat. Fast moving water, and brightish light to encourage algae. Read more here:
Stiphodon atropurpureus – Blue Neon Goby — Seriously Fish

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