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Questions about pH, nitrite, etc.
Old 10-01-2006, 06:02 PM   #1
 
Questions about pH, nitrite, etc.

Hi, thanks for all the great advice thus far. My 46-gal bowfront tank currently houses 3 mollies, 2 platies, 3 gold barbs, 2 bala sharks, 2 kissing gouramis, 2 mystery snails, and 1 java fern.

My ammonia is about 0.2, and my nitrate is low, but my nitrite seems to be off the little chart, at over 10. Help! How do I get this down? I'm guessing a water change will do it?

My other stats seem decent except my pH, which is about 8.5. I purchased a "pH neutralizer" at the pet store and haven't put it in yet. It's supposed to bring the pH to 7.0. However, I read somewhere else that I shouldn't change the pH drastically, and never more than 0.5 per 24 hours. How do I control this? How should I go about adding this stuff to water? Do I do my partial water change before or after addition?

Also, to compound my issue, one of my mollies appears to have ick (little white spots on his tail, altho' he also has a huge "cyst" on his back which appears to be opening at the top and almost eating thru his top skin), so I am treating the tank with QuickCure and aquarium salt, so I removed the carbon in the filter temporarily. Will this cause the nitrites, etc. to get out of whack?

Thank you to everyone for your helpful advice! This seems a lot to control!

Mary
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:10 PM   #2
 
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My ammonia is about 0.2, and my nitrate is low, but my nitrite seems to be off the little chart, at over 10. Help! How do I get this down? I'm guessing a water change will do it?
You seem to confuse nitrites and nitrates. If nitrites were 10, your fish could have already been killed. That sounds more like nitrates and there's nothing to worry about it.
Just do more water changes to put down the ammonia and nitrites.

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My other stats seem decent except my pH, which is about 8.5. I purchased a "pH neutralizer" at the pet store and haven't put it in yet. It's supposed to bring the pH to 7.0. However, I read somewhere else that I shouldn't change the pH drastically, and never more than 0.5 per 24 hours. How do I control this? How should I go about adding this stuff to water? Do I do my partial water change before or after addition?
It won't work. They do more harm than good. Basically, you shouldn't worry too much on pH unless the fish you keep thrive in soft, acidic water like tetras.
None of your fish will be harmed by this high pH. They will thrive well.

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Also, to compound my issue, one of my mollies appears to have ick (little white spots on his tail, altho' he also has a huge "cyst" on his back which appears to be opening at the top and almost eating thru his top skin), so I am treating the tank with QuickCure and aquarium salt, so I removed the carbon in the filter temporarily. Will this cause the nitrites, etc. to get out of whack?
No. They'll be ok with that. As you said, your nitrites seems a little higher(not the nitrates which you confused with), in fact, salt will help the fish survived high toxic nitrites.
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:48 PM   #3
 
Nitrites, etc.

Wow, took me several days to log in. Is there a login problem for others here too??!!

I checked the stats above twice, and according to my strips/chart, my nitrites are high. I did a partial water change, which brought it down somewhat, but still too high, I think. I read a bunch on the internet, tho' about nitrates, nitrites, etc. and I agree with you that this sounds wrong. Could my test kit be faulty? I just bought it last week. I'll do another test in a little while and post them here, if I can log back in!

Meanwhile, I had 3 blue platies in the tank. 1 died a few days ago, another one looks like it's about to go, and there's 1 still swimming around. All the rest of the fish are doing fine, except for the ick outbreak on the mollies (and now 1 platy). I am still treating the tank; is QuickCure and aquarium salt going to do the trick? It's only been 3-4 days that I've been treating it, so I know you're supposed to keep treating for a full 2 weeks.

Thanks again everyone for all your help! I'd be lost without ya!
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:35 PM   #4
 
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Hi starcollector,

High levels nitrites are going to kill fish, so I would advise a series of large water changes (done on a daily basis) It would be useful if you could test the water parameters again and post later.

Can you tell us what kind of test kit you are using?

I believe some members have been having some difficulty in logging in, but please bear with us; admin is working on this at the moment.

Katherine :)
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:18 PM   #5
 
You can also bring a sample of water to your local petstore, like petsmart or Petco. They should be able to test your water for free.

Regarding the cyst. Could you post a pick? It sounds more like HTH (Hole in the Head), becuase ich does not grow larger, they just multiply.

Make sure you perform frequent water changes, reduce the amount of feedings also.

What type of filter do you have? How long has the tank been running? How long has it been stocked with fish?
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:48 PM   #6
 
I'll *try* to get a pick of the molly's cyst. He, as well as 2 other mollies, also have little white spots on their tails, but his wound does concern me; he looks different than I've seen ick before. If it was HOH, is he contagious to the other fishies?! I'm not familiar with that disease.

I'll do more water changes; I've done two in the last two days; it doesn't seem to really bring down the nitrite. The other "odd" thing to me is that the bottle says that when nitrite is high, usually ammonia is also. However, my ammonia levels are pretty good - even better after the water changes. Huh. Maybe I'll take it to Petsmart and have them look at it, altho' it might be embarrasing if it's sky high They will probably recommend products to buy to bring it down - I'm guessing y'all would advise to stay away from them.

The tank has been running for about 5 weeks. I've had fish in for about 3 1/2 of those weeks, adding fish gradually (but maybe not slowly enough?).
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:51 PM   #7
 
watch the kissing gouramis i had two but then my hn3 went to 0.2 and one died
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:16 PM   #8
 
Water changes

I plan to do some water changes to the tank - would it be okay to use well water or is it wiser to use bottled water from the store that is treated? I fear there's hard minerals or smoeting in the well water. I don't have tap water here. :( Thanks!
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:17 PM   #9
 
i would test the water it might be ok but i still wouldn't use it.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:18 PM   #10
 
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Re: Water changes

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I plan to do some water changes to the tank - would it be okay to use well water or is it wiser to use bottled water from the store that is treated? I fear there's hard minerals or smoeting in the well water. I don't have tap water here. :( Thanks!
There's nothing wrong with using well water. The only thing I would worry is chlorine but as it's well water, I doubt there would ever be chlorine laced in it.
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