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Old 08-13-2010, 07:22 PM   #11
 
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Thank you for clearing that up for me. I have seen something that people use were they drill a hole in the tank not sure what it was but I don't like the idea of putting holes in my tank.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:25 PM   #12
 
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I agree with what Lisa and others have mentioned. But back to your sponge filter, this is still a viable option.

Not much info at the linked site, so I went to Fosters&Smith. The Hydro IV is rated for up to 80g tanks, and is only 7.99 there. You will pay over a hundred dollars for an Eheim or Rena (may be specials somewhere, I am giving ball-park figures).

First question is, Amanda, what fish are intended for this aquarium? Some may need the current (even if minimal) from a canister, others would be better with a sponge. A canister can be made to work fine, but if it means 10 times the cost without reason, I would think twice. Even with two sponge filters, one at each end, with the heaters.

And I certainly agree on two heaters, and I would get 200w heaters. The higher wattage heaters have a record of less trouble, and they are on for less time and with two even less time. Much more reliable.

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Old 08-13-2010, 07:29 PM   #13
 
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No need for drilling. A large majority of people on this forum with planted tanks use canister filters for anything over 40g. They are very simple to operate, put good flow through your tank, and gentle on your plants. If you ask me, a canister filter is the way to go in your situation.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:34 PM   #14
 
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What Byron said is certainly something to think about. Sponge filter will be much cheaper, but I think it depends on where in your home your tank is. Running one large air pump or two smaller ones and be a bit noisy depending on the brand. Some noise can usually be reduced by putting a small piece of carpeting underneath it. Just an FYI, I got my Eheim 2213 for $80 shipped. Once we learn what fish might be going into this tank, we can advise you further.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:17 PM   #15
 
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Currently in the tank are 2 Honey Sunset Gourami, 10 Neon Tetra, 6 Golden Barb, 4 Albino Corys, 3 Coryadoras Duplicaerus, and 2 Peacock Gudgeon. I plan on adding 3 more Coryadoras Duplicaerus and 2 more Albino Corys as soon as the breeder has some avaliable and maybe a group of Harliquin Tetra or other fish you guys may suggest. The tank has lots of plants and I moved the gravel from one of my already established tank as well as the plants, driftwood and filter media from both of my 20 gallons. All of the fish also came from the two 20 gallon tanks except for the 4 albino Cory, the 3 Coryadoras Duplicaerus, 2 golden barb and 4 neon tetra I added them the other day.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:36 PM   #16
 
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I would get a canister. You have some Corydoras (esp the Corydoras duplicareus, I have these too, prob my fav cory) that appreciate current, if you read the profile on this species here you will note their natural stream habitat.

In a 55g with the filter outflow at one end (the spraybar or the spigot) and the intake at the other, it is possible to aim the flow against the end glass and create just enough flow at that end to really suit the corys, but keep it calm elsewhere to suit the gourami and neons. I have this arrangement in my 115g, and instinctively the C. duplicareus took up residence under the filter outflow. All corys appreciate some flow, not a buffeting current, just a gentle flow, and a canister will deliver this better that sponge filters. In my view anyway, for what it may be worth.

Check out that profile, I think you will see what I'm getting at.

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Old 08-13-2010, 09:34 PM   #17
 
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I really like them to. I got these 3 at my favorite LFS and the guy that helped me there said his friend breeds them and he can get me 3 more in a few weeks. He has 2 female corydoras pygmaeus that he is going to give me to go with the ones I have and he also breeds corydoras hastatus, and Corydoras habrosus. I will do as you suggest and get a canister and set it up as you say. I really like all my corys but the little orange spot these guys have on there head really makes them pretty.
Do you think a group of 10 Harliquin Tetras would be ok to add or maybe a group of rummy nose tetra? Or I am also looking at maybe some zebra loaches but I need to research them more.
Here is the link to the pictures of the tank if you would like to see it.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...on-tank-48981/

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Old 08-13-2010, 11:40 PM   #18
 
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I really like them to. I got these 3 at my favorite LFS and the guy that helped me there said his friend breeds them and he can get me 3 more in a few weeks. He has 2 female corydoras pygmaeus that he is going to give me to go with the ones I have and he also breeds corydoras hastatus, and Corydoras habrosus. I will do as you suggest and get a canister and set it up as you say. I really like all my corys but the little orange spot these guys have on there head really makes them pretty.
Do you think a group of 10 Harliquin Tetras would be ok to add or maybe a group of rummy nose tetra? Or I am also looking at maybe some zebra loaches but I need to research them more.
Here is the link to the pictures of the tank if you would like to see it.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...on-tank-48981/
Yes, I remember that (sort of). What are your water parameters (hardness and pH)? Rummys are soft acidic water fish equal to cardinals, they occur together (I'm talking the more common "rummy" which is now Hemigrammus bleheri, check the profile for comments on water), and like cardinals they do not fare well in basic hard water. Rasbora (assuming tank raised) less fussy provided it is not too basic. Botia striata are lovely loaches; I have not seen them here for years, I'd really like to get a group--and they are shoaling, 6+. Rummys should be 12+, rasbora 8+.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:13 PM   #19
 
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My ph stays around 7.2 and the hardness is soft I can't remember the exact hardness but I can get it checked again tomorrow. Do you think it would be ok to add maybe 6 of the Loaches and a group of say 10 rasbora, or do you think that would be to many fish? Thank you again all of you for all your help.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:46 AM   #20
 
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My ph stays around 7.2 and the hardness is soft I can't remember the exact hardness but I can get it checked again tomorrow. Do you think it would be ok to add maybe 6 of the Loaches and a group of say 10 rasbora, or do you think that would be to many fish? Thank you again all of you for all your help.
The 6 Botia striata will be fine, they are peaceful and won't bother the corys. The rasbora at 10 is fine with what you have.

If the water is soft, the KH is probably low, so the aquarium should acidify and the pH lower as it matures. Once it is below 7, and it could lower to 6.5 depending upon the KH, rummys would be OK then at 12. Is the tap water 7.2 or just the tank?
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