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post #1 of 12 Old 03-31-2011, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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I have a betta and a mystery snail in a 10 gallon. My quarantine tank is a 1/2 gallon that i float in the 10. How would i quarantine neon tetras and would it be safe to get all 5-6 at once?

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post #2 of 12 Old 03-31-2011, 03:14 PM
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Um, I would bet that your betta would eat them.

I'm not really sure. I would say use some of the 10 gallon's filter media, but 6 neons would be more of a bioload than the betta is anyway.

I'd just buy one neon and make sure your betta doesn't eat it.

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post #3 of 12 Old 03-31-2011, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Compromise with three? I'm kinda confused as to how to do the whole quarantining new fish from the store thing?

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If it was me (and it's not) I'd keep the betta and snail in the 1/2 gl and QT the neons in the 10. When you say it "floats" in the 10, what exactly does that mean? Is the water in the 10 and the 1/2 completely separate?? It needs to be in order to do a proper QT.
While I think 1/2 gl is too small for any fish, a betta would fare better in that small of an environment, as long as it isn't keep there permanently (I do a three to four week QT when I do mine) and you keep up on the water changes, ensuring there are no amm/nitrIte spikes.This means most likely changing the water every other day.
QT means that you keep your new additions TOTALLY separate (as far as the water) until it's determined that the new fish are risk free as far as illness.
Unless your neons are big ones and your betta is passive you may lose the neons, one by one to the betta.

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Yes Kymmie floating means they're separate. The little one is floated to keep it warm. The neons are in a transparent green vase at the moment sitting in the tank. They're all pretty close to an inch long. My theory is that the shrimp I've lost were teasing Dobby and he got mad at them. The last one left him alone, but I think it accidentally got squished when I planted the tank :( The tank is currently 3 Neons (one with a possibly curved spine but it seems to just be too skinny) and 1 realllly tiny ghost shrimp in the green vase, 1 betta (dobby) 1 golden apple snail, 3 small to medium gs free in the tank. I'm probably going to switch them from the vase to the 1/2 gallon because I just can't see them well enough. They've only been here about an hour. Both the GS and neons are new.

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post #6 of 12 Old 04-01-2011, 12:53 AM
I have kept neons with bettas numerous times before. The key is too keep the school of neons larger (minimum of 5) since they school tightly the betta is generally less likely to attack them.

Dont get me wrong, some Bettas are just meanies. It is always a case by case basis with Bettas...but I have had many over the years housed with neons, ADFs, snails (recently), rasboras, and other less finned calm fish without issues.

I agree with AuntKymmie...put the betta and snail in the QT and let the neons have the big tank for a few weeks. And if you do it that way, I would add 2 more neons to that 3. With small schools they get stressed and it can weaken their immune system.

Not sure if it is completely needed to keep the neons and such QTed away from the snail. I am new to snails, but I thought I had read (could be wrong here!!) that they dont carry diseases common to fish?? I dont know, but if they dont, then you would only have to move the betta.

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post #7 of 12 Old 04-01-2011, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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The 3 neons are a temporary number. Just to clarify though Neons and Black Neons can go together in groups of 3...like say 3 of each to make 6.

Forgot to mention Dobby had major depression when he was quarantined for what I though was fin rot a few weeks ago.

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The 3 neons are a temporary number. Just to clarify though Neons and Black Neons can go together in groups of 3...like say 3 of each to make 6.

Forgot to mention Dobby had major depression when he was quarantined for what I though was fin rot a few weeks ago.
The answer to your neon question is a yes and a no in my opinion. You see, Black Neon Tetra are not actually neon tetra. Black Neon Tetra also tend to hang out more in the top half of the tank, and neon tetra in the bottom half. This doesnt mean there isnt exceptions to the rule. And yes, for the most part they tend to school together. Both have similar water parameters, however the neon tetra is a meat eater and the black neon tetra is an omnivore, eating both meat and plant matter.

As to whether or not they will school together and it will give them their general sence of securtiy they like in groups of themselves, I am not sure and would hope another knowledgable member will chime in on this particular thought.

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Just to add something else to ponder on.Ideally it's best to add the neons to the tank first then add the Betta,so the Betta doesn't view it as the neons are invading his turf.

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Just to add something else to ponder on.Ideally it's best to add the neons to the tank first then add the Betta,so the Betta doesn't view it as the neons are invading his turf.

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I agree. This especially helps when you are unsure of how a betta might react and if its the first time the betta will be housed with another fish outside of snails, frogs, and any type of clean up crew.

Great pointer, Tomsk!!!

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