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Old 06-17-2013, 06:57 AM   #11
 
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Glad you got the right answer, and you moved the other fish. I know nothing about that type of Tetra Agree that with clean water the fin will heal itself in a relatively short time.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:09 PM   #12
 
I know that you have said that the fins looked as though they are nipped, and I agree, but would this cause other little spots to appear? They is a white spot noticeable on the body and also on the bottom fin. Could this be caused from stress to the fish from the fins being nipped? Or could this be a case of ich? If it is ich, I already have medication for that as I treated for it in another tank with much success. I can get a picture if that would help.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:19 PM   #13
 
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I know that you have said that the fins looked as though they are nipped, and I agree, but would this cause other little spots to appear? They is a white spot noticeable on the body and also on the bottom fin. Could this be caused from stress to the fish from the fins being nipped? Or could this be a case of ich? If it is ich, I already have medication for that as I treated for it in another tank with much success. I can get a picture if that would help.
I saw that spot before. It is not ich, at least from what I can see in the photos I wouldn't think it was. No doubt related to the fin nipping. Follow the suggestions we've previously indicated, I think all this should resolve itself.

On medications in general, don't be quick to use them, ever. Always make very certain the problem is correctly identified, and then if necessary treat accordingly. Fish from soft water as this ram is are negatively impacted by chemicals and medications, no matter what they are, so they should only be used with caution and certainty. More harm will be done to the fish (stress itself, leading to other issues) by subjecting it to any chemical or medication when this is not going to actually deal with something specific.

And while we're on ich, the best treatment for this is simply to raise the temp to 86F or more, for a week or two. Provided the species can manage (as the ram can), this will deal with ich and be much less stressful.

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Old 06-17-2013, 05:55 PM   #14
 
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Yea, fish sometimes get out of line with aggression. If you get into keeping cichlids, and especially if you get into breeding them you'll get used to bit up fins, missing scales & such, it's all part of it. I'll bet the bit of body damage is a good nip, or a scrape from trying to escape or hide from being nipped. Good call on pulling the tetra.

What I do when I come across a battered fish is move them to a smaller tank, easier to work with. 50% water changes daily for the first week, every other day for the second week, wait 10 minutes before adding dechlorinator. You'll have really clean water, a 10 minute daily antibacterial treatment, and a nice R&R time for a traumatized fish. Don't be surprised if the fins grow back better than they originally were, I've had this happen on numerous occasions.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:43 PM   #15
 
SO, for an update, the ram didn't make it. His fins never really got better and eventually he died :(.

I'm not going to be getting another for a while, but if I do decide to go with the blue ram again, I will for sure be getting a pair (male and female) together to put in the tank.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:47 PM   #16
 
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SO, for an update, the ram didn't make it. His fins never really got better and eventually he died :(.

I'm not going to be getting another for a while, but if I do decide to go with the blue ram again, I will for sure be getting a pair (male and female) together to put in the tank.
I'm sorry for your loss Yes, a male/female pair is best. When my gorgeous male got hole in head disease, I waited to treat him, and lost him. These are sensitive fish and I still think treatment needs to happen sooner than later with them. You just want to use a lower dosage than recommended by directions. I think Byron will disagree with me :) but either way with these fish, loss is likely when they get some illness. Sad.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:06 AM   #17
 
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I'm sorry for your loss Yes, a male/female pair is best. When my gorgeous male got hole in head disease, I waited to treat him, and lost him. These are sensitive fish and I still think treatment needs to happen sooner than later with them. You just want to use a lower dosage than recommended by directions. I think Byron will disagree with me :) but either way with these fish, loss is likely when they get some illness. Sad.
I don't disagree, quite the opposite. The problem though is knowing the disease/issue. Treatment for the wrong problem will severely add to the problem.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:55 PM   #18
 
Rams are my absolute favorite I second keeping them in pairs. They are sensitive social fish, and regular interaction can help keep them healthy enough to prevent problems like these
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