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post #11 of 18 Old 05-20-2010, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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I will of course post pictures ASAP.

I removed and dumped the "sickly" leaves unfortunately As far as dosing, I dose 2.5 mL of Aqueon Plant Food roughly twice a week about every 3rd or 4th day (so as not to starve plants towards the later days of a weekly dose). Each day between 2.5mL doses I add only 3 drops of the APF - I had a few yellow leaves on the Ludwigia repens (Primrose) and a baby Anubias nana leaf that started off yellow. Since then the coloration has improved except for the L. repens of which the leaves that remain yellow are closest to the substrate. I have been scouring the forums for information have concluded that they are not getting proper light and those leaves will die. I need to prune and propagate Also, I have 4 Jungle Plant Tabs near the A. nana, H. difformis, Lilaeopsis brasiliensis (Micro-sword), and the last is between the L. repens and a "supposed" Valisneria spiralis. I am doubtful of the V. spiralis as it does not seem to take to being submersed...

Also as a side note - what I thought was S. subulata was in fact Mondo Grass Lousy LFS sold it to me as the former and I pulled it today and returned it only to see that they have Dracanea now being sold in their aquarium plant tank Sweet Aquatics may see my business very soon, I have heard to much good about them to turn away because of shipping fees anymore. I now know it's worth the 8.99.

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post #12 of 18 Old 05-20-2010, 05:12 PM
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Seeing one of the leaves might change my comments, so this is just initial thinking. I think the Aqueon is a good product, judging solely from the ingredients [if I ever find it locally I would try it for myself]. But not seeing the label online, I can't find the recommended dosage. Make sure you are not exceeding whatever they recommend, since some of the micro-nutrients are heavy metals and in excess can cause fish and cause plant problems. [I'm not suggesting this is the issue with the Java Fern.]

I have never "divided" the recommended dose of plant fertilizers; those I have so far used have always given an amount and then indicated this amount once or twice a week, so I dose the amount once a week or twice a week depending upon how the plants respond. These nutrients are in specific proportions to each other for a reason--that being the requirements of aquatic plants--so while I accept it may or may not be significant, I would only give the full recommended dose at each application and not divide the full dose.

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post #13 of 18 Old 05-21-2010, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
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The black spot seen on other leaves of Java Fern, but were many more



Skeptical "Valisneria spiralis" Personally, I don't even think its an aquatic plant, it has uprooted a bit

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post #14 of 18 Old 05-22-2010, 01:34 PM
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I'm not sure from the photos, I can't detect any issues with the Java that I don't have. However, I would suggest reducing the light duration to 8 hours from 11, and be careful with the fertilization as previously mentioned.

I can't tell, but assume the JF is not planted in the substrate but anchored to those rocks?

The Vall looks like a Vallisneria and could well be V. spiralis.

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post #15 of 18 Old 05-22-2010, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
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I will try reducing the lighting further and see what that does. As far as the JF's anchorage, it is fastened to a driftwood piece via Java Moss, camera quality is awful I know

The reason I doubt it is a Val, is because its leaves are fairly stiff and it seem to grow in a fan shape rather than the seaweed like bunch I see in everyone's photos.
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post #16 of 18 Old 05-23-2010, 10:11 PM Thread Starter
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Okay, So after doing more research and some random luck pouring over web-sources. I think that "Vallisneria" really is not Vallisneria. Reason being the structure of the leaves emanating from the root bulb. See the overlap in the picture I posted. The leaves themselves are fairly stiff and do not flow in the water like Vallisneria is supposed to. Lastly, I think that the plant as a whole has a fan structure, also uncharacteristic of the more radial Vallisneria genus. I think that plant I have may be Acorus gramineus.
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post #17 of 18 Old 05-24-2010, 01:42 PM
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The plant in your photos is not Acorus gramineus, I'm fairly sure of that; the manner in which the leaves emerge from the crown is quite different. Also, there is a white strip along the leaf in A. gramineus. It is also not a true aquatic and will not last long submersed. But I don't think that is what you have.

Identifying plants from photos is not always easy, and rarely so in fact. At first glance your plant struck me as a Sagittaria or Vallisneria.

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post #18 of 18 Old 05-24-2010, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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Alrighty :) Thanks a ton Byron :) I am truly thankful for all the knowledge you share.
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