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Please HELP!!! My fishes are dying left and right.
Old 12-12-2009, 03:08 PM   #41
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I did a water change on Wednesday. I will wait till next Wednesday to do 20% water change. I will do a water test again tomorrow.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:38 PM   #42
 
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What test kit are you using - Sure you use 10ML of water? Both I had always used 5ML (also the API I have now) just to be sure
It is increasing & slowly, which is what you'd want, cause if it would have come back rock solid after 1 night, its safe to assume you'd have woke up to dead fish.
Pers I'd give it another day & retest again, then depending on it add the crushed coral you gotten.

I'd not do w/c neither with these readings

What'll help ya for setting up a tank for the Tetra: Use filter media from your existing 10G and "wash" it out in the new tank and put it back in your filter, that way you're adding some beneficial bacteria to the new Tetra tank at least (makes for quicker move in ready home for them guys).
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:54 PM   #43
 
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Thanks for the tip on setting up 5G. I was planning on moving some of my current gravel to the 5G... for the same reason of moving bacteria. I did not think about filter initially and now i will try that as well.

I use tetratest for kH. The testtube (i dont know what else to call it, its rectangular and tall) has 5 10 and 15 ml lines... The test kit suggests 5 ml and if more accuracy is needed 10 ml. 1 drop = 1 dH in 5ML and 1 drop = 0.5 dH in 10 ml...
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #44
 
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I am also planning to add some plants to both 10G and 5 G.

What will be the best time? wait till 10G and 5G both are stabilized or can I add now? If I can add now, what is a good plant for a beginner (I already have java moss).
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:07 PM   #45
 
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When you test 2mrw do it with 5ml - To help ya see the blue-yellow swing better do it on a windowsill or close by a window with a white sheet paper/ paper towel underneath (to help ya see better I had Tetra before as well and would be worried it throws the results off - Which it may or may not, I really don't know, I'd try it.

Yes gravel and/ or filter media both works, I just always used the filter as all my plants were so heavily planted I'd have torn it up getting gravel outta there

For the 5g add plants right from the start, will help the new set up tremendously.
For the 10g its really up to you if you do this now or later, whatever fits your time & Budget.

In case you're running into the same problem then me in the greater TN/GA area...here's where I get my plants due to the non-selection at stores Sweet Aquatics
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:02 PM   #46
 
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Today's readings

kH - 1 dH (with 5 ml, the first drop itself was yellow, so I tried with 10 ml, the first drop was a clear blue and then the second drop was a clear yellow)

pH - 7.0 (yippee its raising :D)

Ammonia - 0.50 (increased from yesterday... )

Nitrite - 0

Nitrate - 10

Phosphorus - 0.25

I am not sure why Ammonia is raising again.. I have not even been feeding the usual 3 times a day.. i have been feeding only 2 times a day)

I have some questions...
So will these rocks continue to raise the pH?? or will it stop by itself at some point??

What is a good kH for the long term??

I want the pH to stay at 7.0 - 7.2 (till I get my 5G for tetras) as I read somewhere that this is a pH that is comfortable for both tetras and the live bearers. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:10 PM   #47
 
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Feeding once a day or every 2nd day will be fully sufficient.
No the rocks will raise to point X and then stops, they can only give of so much.
I'd find a KH of at least 4 but rather 6 ideal IF you wanna keep your Guppy , Platy & Co
I'd give the rocks at least 1 week and then add the coral you also gotten.

The pH is really not the issue, as your water is, its perfect for the Tetra's - Just not for the Guppy - But when its starting to get prefect for the Guppy (higher KH) then its no good for the Tetra any more, like discussed before.
So ideally adding the crushed coral and going "full force" on hardening your water you'd ideally wanna do after you moved the tetra's out.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:11 AM   #48
 
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Hurray... i got a 5G tank yesterday and have set up the tetras nice and comfy....

I got 2 new plants for my 10G tank Gold Ribbon and Peacock Fern. I want to make sure I can maintain simple plants before trying my hand at fancy ones.

Today's readings are as below

kH - 1.5 (steadily increasing )
pH - 7.2 (steadily increasing )
Ammonia - 1.0 (steadily increasing )
Nitrite - less than 0.25 but more than 0 (I guess my tank is cycling)
Nitrate - 10 (same as before)

I am feeding only twice a day and very little. Even then Ammonia is increasing. At 7.2 pH, isnt 1.0 Ammonia very high??? should I do a water change? If I do a water change that will reduce the hardness of water. But pH of tap water and tank water is same now. So should I do a water change or not?

I see some algae formation in the walls. Like small bushes, horizontally attached to walls. its there in many places small spots. java moss also has some of the algae on it here and there... should I be concerned?
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:25 AM   #49
 
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Def do a w/c with the Ammonia this high!!! Prep your exchange water as normal and maybe hang a sock in there with like 2-3 cups crushed coral for few hrs to increase the tap water hardness.
Algae often begins growing when the NO's go up. so I'd not worry too much about this right now.
I just do not get why your Ammonia & NO's are going up like this now, others then your tank cycling AGAIN. You hadn't washed your filter or anything have you? Just keep on doing w/c with a good conditioner until its down to 0 again, harder water won't help the fish anyway if the Ammonia keeps rising.

How as for the hardness: is that only with the white rocks in there or have you also already added crushed coral?
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:50 AM   #50
 
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In my opinion, the pH and hardness are rising too quickly. On Dec 12 pH was 6.4 and in three days it is 7.2, and KH has gone from .5 to 1.5. Were it me, I would want both to remain exactly where they now are; but the relatively quick increase suggests something is significantly altering the water chemistry, and there are (unless I'm mistaken) fish in this tank.

Ammonia is now toxic, unlike previously when it was ammonium. And algae will be more common in water with a higher pH and hardness.

I would remove some of the rock or whatever was added to raise the hardness. I cautioned before about this, and will say no more.

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