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PLEASE HELP ME What is going on ????? How do I fix it???
Old 03-25-2012, 10:32 PM   #1
 
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Ok my LFS told me to put tetra safe start in the tanks to take care of the HIGH ammonia lvls. I did that last week and on wed took a water sample to them and they said there was almost no ammonia ( yeaaaa) but now my ph is high 7.8. They told me that it was due to the fact I have well water and copper pipes in my house and recomended the safe start and maybe some discus buffer. This will be yet another chemical I have had to purchase and put in my tank not to mention I lost another three fish this week while I was on vacation. They also told me not to feed my fish very much at all ( like one pellet per fish) and now all my fish look sickly and I have lost all but three of my plants and those dont look healthy either. Plus my 5 and 10 gal tanks have an algae bloom going on (2nd time for 5 gal) SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME AND TELL ME HOW TO FIX THIS I AM GETTING VERY FRUSTRATED HERE!!!!! I feel like I am being dooped and nickle and dimed to death here
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:54 PM   #2
 
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If your tank is not cycled then any level of ammonia and Nitrite will be lethal to fish...cycling is best done without fish.

Performing almost daily water changes will help but until the right bacteria colonies become established and you have zero ammonia / nitrite readings, the fishes health will always be at risk..maybe not immediate but long term ammonia and nitrite shorten their lifespan.

With regards to your algae bloom , it will likely clear on its own over time, in the mean time, reduce the amount of time you have your lights on for.

It would be very beneficial for you to purchase a test kit yourself, something like the API freshwater Master test kit. This will allow you to monitor the tank yourself and not rely on sometimes erroneous information given by your fish store testing the water.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:10 PM   #3
 
I appreciate the advise it helps calm me down alot. I have another question though. The LFS warrantys fish but not plants for the first thirty days ( they still owe me fish for the first time I lost 1/2 of my fish 2 days after buying the first tank) and I was wondering do I stick it out with them or just go to petco or petsmart and get the stuff and start over for my self???? I mean I cant keep loosing fish cause it is not fair to the fish or me.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:42 PM   #4
 
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how long have they been up and running? Make sure they are cycled properly before getting anymore fish. Also I dont use any chemicals they just fix your problems temporarly you need a cycled tank. When you get your test kit also test your tap water to see what those parameters are. Post all the numbers here so we can get a better idea whats going on.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:54 AM   #5
 
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What is your PH right out of the tap?

I have well water and my PH out of the tap is 6.2 but can range anywhere from 6.2 to neutral in the tank several days after my water changes.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:23 AM   #6
 
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As has been already stated a few times, do not use fish to cycle an aquarium. You are new to the hobby so I'm going to assume no one has told you about the aquarium cycle and what it is (most pet/fish stores do not mention it unless you ask).

Here is an article that explains it all and I highly recommend you read it. It will explain what the cycle is, and ways to do it without fish: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

The best course you can do is ask the LFS if you can return all the fish for store credit until your tanks cycle, then go in and get your fish. If they won't do that, do not buy any additional fish and continue with the fish-in cycle, changing the water daily.

In regards to your pH what fish do you intend to keep? A lot of people have the misconception that anything other than a pH of 7.0 is bad. That is not the case. Some fish like acidic water (5's and 6's) and some like basic water (7's and 8's). You should test your tap water to see what it is, using chemicals to adjust pH is a futile effort that will do nothing but stress your fish.

Now for algae, this usually happens from two main causes. Nutrients and light. Excess nutrients come from too much fish food and not enough water changes. You should replace 25-50% of the water in each tank every week. Pick a day and make it a routine, shouldn't take you more than a half hour to do. Be sure to use your water conditioner to remove chlorine.

The amount of food you feed should be however much they will completely eat in under 5 minutes. If any is left over after 5 minutes, you fed too much. Most people over feed their fish.

With light, you should only have your aquarium lights on for 8-10 hours a day, and your tanks should be kept out of direct sunlight at all times. A household light timer, the kind you use when going on vacations to turn table lamps on is extremely useful to control your tank lights.

What kind of algae are you getting? Green, brown, hair like, tiny green specs? If it's cloudy/foggy looking water that's just a bacterial bloom that is very common in new tanks. It's harmless and goes away on its own.

Another great way to combat algae is live plants, they can out compete algae for nutrients, and from your post you have some. Do you know what kind? Unfortunately a lot of fish/pet stores will sell plants that are not aquatic and will die if submerged after a few weeks. However, plants need 'food' too, a liquid fertilizer is usually needed and most here recommend flourish comprehensive because it contains all the nutrients plants need. In addition, plants grow best under proper lighting. Typically all you need to do is switch your bulbs over to a 'daylight' bulb with a color temperature between 5000-7000K.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:42 PM   #7
 
Tell us the basics about the tanks.

Gallons?
Lights?
how long has it been setup?
How many and what type of fish?

You mentioned plants, what is in the tank plants and/or decorations?

Last but not least pictures always help.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:49 PM   #8
 
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What kind of fish do you have? I wouldn't really worry about the PH, and can guarantee you a 'discus buffer' will be totally useless against hard water. Maybe try diluting with rain water if you're rural and your fish like acidic conditions, but unless you're trying to keep extrememly sensitive fish, I'd just try to let them get used to the 7.8 and not mess with it.

Tetra safe start isn't useful IMO either. If I have an ammonia emergency and can't get filter material from an established tank, I use table sugar, 1 tsp per 10 gallons, once a day, diluted. But don't do it without a test kit and frequent daily water changes. I watch the fish for signs of stress and monitor the water twice a day during the process.


For any more help, please answer the previous two posters. They're asking for neccesary information.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:08 PM   #9
 
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What is your PH right out of the tap?

I have well water and my PH out of the tap is 6.2 but can range anywhere from 6.2 to neutral in the tank several days after my water changes.
my ph out of the tap is like 5.6-6.0
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:30 PM   #10
 
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how long have they been up and running? Make sure they are cycled properly before getting anymore fish. Also I dont use any chemicals they just fix your problems temporarly you need a cycled tank. When you get your test kit also test your tap water to see what those parameters are. Post all the numbers here so we can get a better idea whats going on.
ok got a test kit today and here are the parameters for the tap water and my tanks


TAP WATER
PH= 6.0
AMMONIA= 0
GH=25
KH=80
NITRITES=0
NITRATES=0

5GAL TANK
PH=7.6
AM=0
GH=0
KH=300
NITRATES=0
NITRITES=0


10GAL TANK
PH=7.6
AM=0
GH=0
KH=300
NITRITES= 0
NITRATES=0



29GAL TANK
PH=7.6
AM=0
GH=75
KH=300
NITRITES=0
NITRATES=0


I also took a sample to LFS and they said it was fine slight ammonia in 29g tank but the rest were good and they said we would wait a week and then start replacing the fish that I lost.
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