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post #31 of 35 Old 02-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Yep this place is where I get mine too.

I've never bothered with any extra tests. I generally just go by no tests at all. CSM+B provides a good deal of iron. I just start with a standard dose and regime then give it a few weeks. If plants are lacking a nutrient they will show it. So I usually just adjust fertilizers on visual signs.

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post #32 of 35 Old 02-06-2012, 07:12 PM
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iron question?

Can someone tell me if my cities water report says average iron is 0.010 is that alot? Not much?

I'm going to look into these ferts over comprehensive, as there are some great points bought up.

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Okay, I just someone to tell me what I should buy :) Looked on the site for purchasing. Should I just get the Macro Micro Nutrient Mix, or buy KN03 and Kh2P04?? How do you all decide what to buy? I'm sold on the idea of the dry fertz, as paying for mostly water with Comprehensive.

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I use dry but also use the Flourish comp for my smaller tanks, it's just easier to measure and make sure my micronutrients are balanced. I have a 3ml syringe for dosing the comp, so the per gallon dosing is really easy (I also buy the big comp bottles and keep in the fridge).

18 species/varieties of fish, 15 species/varieties of plants - The fish are finally ahead of the plants!
*560 gallons (2120 liters) in 5 tanks -> you do the math.
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Can someone tell me if my cities water report says average iron is 0.010 is that alot? Not much?

I'm going to look into these ferts over comprehensive, as there are some great points bought up.

Gwen

Okay, I just someone to tell me what I should buy :) Looked on the site for purchasing. Should I just get the Macro Micro Nutrient Mix, or buy KN03 and Kh2P04?? How do you all decide what to buy? I'm sold on the idea of the dry fertz, as paying for mostly water with Comprehensive.
I purchased the Macro-micro nutrient mix which was one bag each of KNO3,KH2PO4,and CSM+B.

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post #35 of 35 Old 02-07-2012, 01:51 AM
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Yep this place is where I get mine too.

I've never bothered with any extra tests. I generally just go by no tests at all. CSM+B provides a good deal of iron. I just start with a standard dose and regime then give it a few weeks. If plants are lacking a nutrient they will show it. So I usually just adjust fertilizers on visual signs.
+one, When I purchased the Fertilizer's, I then began google search for EI dosing for 80 gal tank and noted that folks who use EI(estimative index) form of dosing, were adding much more of these dry fertilizer's for their tank's each day which were largely high energy tank's, with higher lighting,and CO2 injection.
I then took daily dose from formula for my/your size tank, and rather than dose this amount each day,,I simply dose daily amount once a week.
I searched out teaspoon measurement's from the EI dosing formulas I found during google search for my size tank, and EI dosing for same. (easier for me to grasp)
Found such a teaspoon formula for 60 to 80 gal tank and also same for 20 gal and 29 gal.
I simply scoop up a cup of aquarium water once a week,add the fertilizers and give it a good stir,and dump it in the tank. Done.
Would note that I wait to add the Trace minerals (CSM+B), a day after water changes and Macro nutrient's are added.
My dechlorinator detoxifies metals so I wait for this reason until dechlorinator is no longer active and also because That's what the folks suggested that are far more expierienced than myself.
Seems there was/is is good reason for not mixing the macro and micro nutrient's together or adding them on same day, but I cannot remember what exactly this reason is so I just don't do it.
Many folks get all caught up in precise measuring for their application but this form of dosing was never meant to be precise and more or less is often used depending upon application,plant mass,fish number's,food imput,CO2 enhancement or not,substrates, lighting,etc.
For low light ,low tech application ,,much less is needed and daily dose from EI formula for my /your size tank once a week, should be good place to start.
I have added more without any harm to plant's,fish,or most important to me,,not encouraging algae growth.
Plant's can tell you what they are wanting but perhaps this is for another thread, and it is also something that I am still studying which I should mention , makes me unqualified to diagnose with any large degree of certainty, but I AM learning.
Have spent many hours on planted tank forums, reading ALL of the threads from topics that I am curious about.
Folks there willing to help, but they do expect you to do a bit of searching for yourself before they respond to same old question's.
It is at it should be in my view.That which is quickly learned or easily learned is quickly forgotten unless your old like me,,then everything is much more quickly forgotten.

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