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post #21 of 25 Old 11-23-2009, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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My main concern for a group of them would be my tank size with 55g, they'd be in there with a school of Cardinal & Emeropr some Hatchet's and Cory & Otto's (so the thought anyway at this early on point in my tank life).

As for feeding with the smaller fish like my killi's I was most successful with Daphina & Krill in the past, would this be appropriate for them? I did offer Bloodworms to them as well, but really they only tought the 'left overs' from the Cory's that were in the tank with them.

When reading up on the so far, everything to me pointed in the direction to not have them early on in my tank, but rather maybe let's say 1 yrs down the Rd for two reasons 1) Fully established tank 2) Plant growth by then will have covered the grater majority of the tank - Is this conclusion in line with what you have experienced or would suggest for these fish?

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post #22 of 25 Old 11-23-2009, 07:44 PM
Very nice! I am thinking about getting some of both of those fish. I want them in my 55gal, but haven't quite determined if I will have room for them. I use to have a a bunch of rummy's but lost them all. They where so pretty, at least I still have the pics.

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My main concern for a group of them would be my tank size with 55g, they'd be in there with a school of Cardinal & Emeropr some Hatchet's and Cory & Otto's (so the thought anyway at this early on point in my tank life).

As for feeding with the smaller fish like my killi's I was most successful with Daphina & Krill in the past, would this be appropriate for them? I did offer Bloodworms to them as well, but really they only tought the 'left overs' from the Cory's that were in the tank with them.

When reading up on the so far, everything to me pointed in the direction to not have them early on in my tank, but rather maybe let's say 1 yrs down the Rd for two reasons 1) Fully established tank 2) Plant growth by then will have covered the grater majority of the tank - Is this conclusion in line with what you have experienced or would suggest for these fish?
Yes, pencils do not tolerate fluctuations in water parameters or quality well, certainly worse that tetras, and that includes going into a newer tank, shipment to stores, shipment home, and transferring from one tank to another unless the parameters are identical. And I learned the hard way not to buy them when they first arrive in the store or dealer. Let them settle in after being shipped. I'm wondering if this may not have been a factor in the loss of most of my N. mortenthaleri, they came up from Peru to the local dealer and I got them 3 days later. On another ocassion I bought N. unifasciatus the day after they arrived in the store direct from Peru again; within 2 days all were dead. I heard from the store owner that most of his were dead as well, so clearly this was not me but the sensitivity of the fish.

Daphnia is good, my pencils like this very much. They also eat flake and frozen bloodworms, though the N. unifasciatus have some difficultly because their mouth is very small and they have to chew and chew on bloodworms, and other fish see this and come up and grab the bloodworms right out of their mouths while the pencils are struggling with them.

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Just occurred to me, that rummynose are quite sensitive something like pencils to water and moving too. I usually wait for the tank to settle (3-4 months) before they come in. I've lost many of them when I didn't follow this. Hope yours were stronger, and no further problems. B.

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post #24 of 25 Old 11-23-2009, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
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Wow, thanks for all this valuable info! I think when the time is ready (or rather my tank) I'll bug you with more questions/ details

Apart from the suicidal Rummy I posted about this AM, which seriously upset me, I have issue with them eating, or maybe I'm just over paranoid after this AM's experience I'm not sure I asked for help here http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...g-right-32725/

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Nice pics and fish!!
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