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post #11 of 15 Old 08-11-2009, 09:54 AM
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Are you still getting ammonia readings? When a tank is cycled, and thereafter, ammonia should always test at "0" (as should nitrite) unless there is a major issue. Ammonia is more serious the higher the pH. Did you check the tap water?

Plants are not affected by cycling or ammonia, in fact they use ammonia and in a planted tank the plants remove quite a bit of it before it gets to the bacteria. Aquarists often say the plants use the nitrates, but in fact it is more the initial ammonia that they need (ammonium in slightly acidic water). Fish can take a few days before the ammonia hits them, and by then it can be too late. Which is why I'm asking about ammonia at this point.

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post #12 of 15 Old 08-17-2009, 08:25 PM Thread Starter
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everything is reading fine zeros on everything i added 6 more neon tetras and a zebra loach today i guess im going to have to get one or two more as suggested by different sources on the internet iv also added some drift wood but its free floating so i need to figure out a way to anchor it down. my dad suggested a steal plate but i figure that would rust and do some stuff to the water so im thinking ill just glue it with some aquarium safe stuff to some thin slate and it wont float up to the top

its a half a inch of water and you think your gunna drown
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everything is reading fine zeros on everything i added 6 more neon tetras and a zebra loach today i guess im going to have to get one or two more as suggested by different sources on the internet iv also added some drift wood but its free floating so i need to figure out a way to anchor it down. my dad suggested a steal plate but i figure that would rust and do some stuff to the water so im thinking ill just glue it with some aquarium safe stuff to some thin slate and it wont float up to the top
On the wood, some will eventually sink but some types will not and needs to be held down. Glue the wood onto a piece of slate and then bury the slate under the gravel. Silicone is a "glue" that is waterproof, it is what holds the tank glass together, and it may work on the wood and slate but I haven't tried it.

On the loaches, yes, Botia striata are shoaling fish and do better in groups, minimum 3 is fine if space is a problem, they like swimming rom as they are active and playful (like most loaches), or a couple more if your tank can handle them.

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post #14 of 15 Old 08-20-2009, 03:43 AM Thread Starter
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the only thing wrong with the loach is hes kind of shy and doesnt really interact with the neons i supose in the morning ill get another one if my lfs still has them in stock i got some black slate and glued the wood to it yesterday and am going to put it in later today.

its a half a inch of water and you think your gunna drown
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the only thing wrong with the loach is hes kind of shy and doesnt really interact with the neons i supose in the morning ill get another one if my lfs still has them in stock i got some black slate and glued the wood to it yesterday and am going to put it in later today.
On his own the loach will be as you have observed. Two more would do wonders, and keep him healthier.

Just in case you may consider other species, be careful about mixing loach species. Some are quite aggressive. Botia striata is not, very peaceful, and there are others. here's a link to an excellent loach site with info on the species. Loaches Online - Community Edition — Loaches Online

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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