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pH is always 7.6 on API test kit
Old 02-04-2011, 11:34 AM   #21
 
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Hi Volt, well that is really weird... did the kit come with 4 tubes and 6-8 solution bottles? Mine is just new, replaced it last week and the colour card has 5 test results vertically listed on it.
Humour me and make a list for us of the names on each of the solution bottles.
You are new at this and all of us here want you to succeed and it is tough to do if you don't have the right equipment and you are trying so hard to do this right !!
We'll get it all sorted out while you wait for the cycle to finish. (keeping in mind that you can only add a small number of fish at a time to allow the good bio to catch up with each addition)
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:04 PM   #22
 
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I'm using the API bottle test kit which (apparently) tests for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. I see no way to tell the difference, because there is only 1 color chart.

I do not have fish yet. I suppose I will have to keep waiting, with 20% water changes daily.
This is a beef I have with the newer API Master test kit. It comes with only one test result card, listing all the tests vertically across the one card. If you take API's singular card reading for nitrate and compare it to the multi card's reading for nitrate you'll find that the 20ppm looks to be the same color as the other card's 40ppm. Quite a dang difference to me! I tossed out the multi test reading card and kept my singular result cards. The ammonia colors are a bit off between the two cards also, as is the PH. Granted, it's just a slight difference of shade but it still bugs the heck out of me!

Volt, didn't your test kit also contain a PH test??
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:32 PM   #23
 
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Hi Aunt Kymmie! Thanks for the input! That's not right for a company who supplies the main testing kits for North American (us in Canada too!) pet owners to cheep out on us. Are they going to replace our fish when they die because the readings are wrong. No!, because no one (the newbie) will know the test kits are wrong, that the colour cards are inaccurate. We complain to each other that the test strips are inaccurate... so now the master kit is also inaccurate!! Only someone experienced and who has purchased new and old kits will know the difference. This is so wrong on so many levels aunt kymmie!! If you took it back the LFS is just going to say," I don't know, that's what they sent us." I paid $40 bucks for my master kit. Did you write and complain aunt kymmie? It's not even something that we can take a pic of and email it cause it is all subject to the printer an ink that Volt has or his/her monitor screen. So wrong!!
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:44 PM   #24
 
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Hi Aunt Kymmie! Thanks for the input! That's not right for a company who supplies the main testing kits for North American (us in Canada too!) pet owners to cheep out on us. Are they going to replace our fish when they die because the readings are wrong. No!, because no one (the newbie) will know the test kits are wrong, that the colour cards are inaccurate. We complain to each other that the test strips are inaccurate... so now the master kit is also inaccurate!! Only someone experienced and who has purchased new and old kits will know the difference. This is so wrong on so many levels aunt kymmie!! If you took it back the LFS is just going to say," I don't know, that's what they sent us." I paid $40 bucks for my master kit. Did you write and complain aunt kymmie? It's not even something that we can take a pic of and email it cause it is all subject to the printer an ink that Volt has or his/her monitor screen. So wrong!!
Well, it looks like I flew the coop on this one. I threw away the all-in-one test reading card. This is a problem for API to explain, not the suppliers of the test kits. I'm sure the all-in-one card is cheaper to produce than the individual cards. I should have done my nitrate test, held the two cards up against the tube, snapped a picture and then sent an email to API for clarification. Regardless of how the picture is taken, or how the monitor displays it, you will still see that there is a difference.
I just placed another order for a master test kit. It's amazing how quickly one can use up a test kit with five tanks and being neurotic, lol.
When the new kit arrives I will snap the pictures and send an email. To be continued...
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #25
 
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Ooooooo !! I LIKE!! Thank you Aunt Kymmie for understanding the importance and helping to make a point here. I only have the new kit with the 5 tests in vertical colour bands on one card so have no proof to give. Here is a pic of what I bought in Ontario last weekend. But also this new kit I got needs two diff bottles to test the ammonia, and two diff bottles to test NitrAtes. So will these new procedures produce a new range of colours?
I wonder if the code numbers in the corner of the card are part of a date or batch.
The instruction book show the company to be www.marsfishcare.com dealing in Chalfont, PA and France and the UK. The web site shows nothing of what is in each kit, just the outside packaging.
This is just bizarre to me. Can't wait to see what your new test kit shows. If your new kit matches your old card perfectly then how many wrong ones are out there.... ?
Volt... still want to know exactly what is in your kit, how it compares to AK's and mine.
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:32 PM   #26
 
EDIT: I AM A MORON

I am a moron, my kits do not test nitrate and nitrite. I do not have the master test kit. I use two separate kits for the pH and ammonia.

These are the products I use.

pH kit
Ammonia NH3/NH4 kit

I have no method for testing the other things as of now...

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Old 02-04-2011, 05:55 PM   #27
 
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See !!??!! Did I know there was more to that story or what? LOL
But you have identified a possible concern in that the test kits do not seem to be consistant or in some way reliable until we confirm what the colour rankings are in Aunt Kimmie's kit... the card she threw out vs the new kit she ordered. I'm interested to see what that reveals!!
Try to fit it into the budget when you can... those numbers are all part of the whole picture.
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:10 PM   #28
 
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The bottles and procedures are exactly the same, it's just that there's a slight difference in the color shadings on the new "master" card they are enclosing with the new kits, versus the old kits which have a color coded card for each test. I'm not sure you're going to be able to see the differences on the different shades on the nitrAte cards based on these pics but here are the pics anyway. I really wish I hadn't tossed the master card. Looking at them side by side they are different.
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:43 PM   #29
 
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Well I sure like your seperate cards with the white space beside them compared to mine cause it gets distracting! I have to lay white paper over the other columns when I check my tubes. Total decision to save money on their part! Thanks for showing us!
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:33 PM   #30
 
Sorry for this 3-week-old bump...

Guys, my ammonia is not going down. This is the 6th week of cycling. It stays between 0.00 and 0.25 no matter what. When I change the water it increases, then drops to normal after several hours. The tap water I use has ammonia of 2.0 by itself.

It has been 6 weeks now. I read that cycling takes 4-6 weeks average. I have been changing the water every other day. I am convinced that it's going to stay this way. I also have no fish, so from my understanding the tap water is the only source where this ammonia could be coming coming from. And it is never going to reach 0. Even if it eventually does, when I change the water it's just going to spike up again.
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