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ph and alkalinity probs
Old 05-01-2012, 12:18 PM   #11
 
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dGH is hardness, it's a german unit. It's the most used unit here. Divide your ppm value for hardness by 18,7 to get dGH.

dKH is alkalinity, same german unit as dGH. Divide your ppm value for alkalinity by 18,7 to get dKH.

I just realized you have 0 hardness and a lot of alkalinity, wich is to me quite unnatural. Are you in a city where they add lime at the treatment plant to soften the water ?

How long have you had your 20 gal ?
20 gal has been up for a week . dont know about lime but its pretty nasty water
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:25 PM   #12
 
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First on the platy, this is due to the water. Nitrite at 1 will kill the fish, and gasping for air is undoubtedly due to the nitrite. Nitrite affects the blood preventing it from carrying oxygen, thus the gasping. This sounds pretty far gone, so be prepared to lose the fish; no fish can survive this. Just so you know what to expect.

The cycling article Geo linked previously will explain this. I use live plants to avoid cycling issues, something as basic as floating plants will work.

On the pH and hardness, are you sure the GH is zero? This alone will severely weaken the platy (all livebearers need harder water) and leave it vulnerable. Perhaps you can contact your water supply people, they may have a website, and ascertain the GH and KH (Alkalinity) from them so we are certain and will know how to deal with this.

And the high KH is what is preventing the pH from changing, Alkalinity works to buffer pH. For some background, have a read of this:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/

And as Geo said, any chemical added to the water will have little effect, and all these also stress out fish, further weakening them.

Hang in there, we will sort all this out.

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:40 PM   #13
 
I would cal the water company that servers your home and ask them about the hardness of the water. The live bearers platys need hard water. You need to find out the hardness of your water to make sure it is suitable for those platys.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:41 PM   #14
 
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First on the platy, this is due to the water. Nitrite at 1 will kill the fish, and gasping for air is undoubtedly due to the nitrite. Nitrite affects the blood preventing it from carrying oxygen, thus the gasping. This sounds pretty far gone, so be prepared to lose the fish; no fish can survive this. Just so you know what to expect.

The cycling article Geo linked previously will explain this. I use live plants to avoid cycling issues, something as basic as floating plants will work.

On the pH and hardness, are you sure the GH is zero? This alone will severely weaken the platy (all livebearers need harder water) and leave it vulnerable. Perhaps you can contact your water supply people, they may have a website, and ascertain the GH and KH (Alkalinity) from them so we are certain and will know how to deal with this.

And the high KH is what is preventing the pH from changing, Alkalinity works to buffer pH. For some background, have a read of this:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/

And as Geo said, any chemical added to the water will have little effect, and all these also stress out fish, further weakening them.

Hang in there, we will sort all this out.
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Byron.
rechecked water and all are same, 0 hardness. poor panda platy. pet store in town said nothing about water probs even tho i had them test water 5 days in a row. they knew there was a prob but couldnt help. i will now try 2 contact water supply
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:45 PM   #15
 
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I would cal the water company that servers your home and ask them about the hardness of the water. The live bearers platys need hard water. You need to find out the hardness of your water to make sure it is suitable for those platys.
thanks i will call .
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:49 PM   #16
 
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I have merged the two threads which were on the same topic, so there will be some overlap of questions earlier in this thread. It is better that we have all posts in one spot so everyone knows what others have said and we can keep our advice consistent. We can move forward from the last posts.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:06 PM   #17
 
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I have merged the two threads which were on the same topic, so there will be some overlap of questions earlier in this thread. It is better that we have all posts in one spot so everyone knows what others have said and we can keep our advice consistent. We can move forward from the last posts.
i called water company and was told they dont have any info other than they are not getting lake water at this time, its coming from wells. should i take tap water to pet store to test gh kh?
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #18
 
You coud do that but make sure to get specific numbers not just "it's fine".
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You coud do that but make sure to get specific numbers not just "it's fine".
thanks. ill be back
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:14 PM   #20
 
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i called water company and was told they dont have any info other than they are not getting lake water at this time, its coming from wells. should i take tap water to pet store to test gh kh?
ok i got my tap water tested. gh-25,kh-off charts high, ph-8.5, . is this enough info to figure this out?
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