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Old 01-13-2010, 07:11 PM   #11
 
Thanks for all the responses everyone. Here are my current water conditions:

Nitrates: between 20-40 ppm
Nitrates, Chlorine: 0
Hardness (GH): 300 ppm [I have been using tap water while home so this number is high and is generally closer to 75-100]
Alkalinity (KH): 80-120 ppm
Ph: about 7.2

I'm a bit worried that the nitrates are that high considering I changed the water (~25-30%) in the tank yesterday.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:04 AM   #12
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Well, like I said, according to some standards your tank is overstocked. But there are other explanations: too much food, not enough porous decor, stray cleaning chemicals, absorbed chemicals from aerosol canisters, etc. I would try feeding the fish a bit less than you normally do and see if that produces an effect (I normally skip feedings one day a week).

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Old 01-14-2010, 03:32 AM   #13
 
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Hi everyone, this is my first post and thread. I have been keeping a ten gallon aquarium for about 5 months now. I've tried to research as much as possible and take the best care of the fish that I could. For most of the five months I had been keeping 3 spotted corydoras and 6 zebra danios (glofish). I have been performing 20-25% water changes every week. I have been doing occasional water testing (1-2 per month), my water conditions have been excellent for most of the life of the aquarium. I have also added appropriate amounts of aquarium salt during each water change. I have had such good experiences with this tank that I decided to start another 29 gallon tank. I keep both my 10 and 29 (currently uninhabited) tanks at my house in the city in which I go to college but I brought my 10 gallon and my fish home to a different city. While I've been home, I found a store with beautiful fancy guppies that I could not pass on. I bought 6 and put them in my 10 gallon with the intent to keep them there for no more than 1 1/2 weeks before placing some of the fish in my other tank. I have been told to strictly follow the 1 inch per gallon rule and have been mostly compliant. However, even with the 6 guppies, 6 zebra danios, and 2 corys (1 died as a result of stress from the trip I believe) my tank actually does not 'appear' crowded. Actually the guppies and glofish are quite beautiful together. My question is this: is my tank dangerously overstocked? I will separate these fish soon if they are but I would prefer to keep them in their current condition if they are not.

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If the tank is overstocked then I will remove the glofish and the corys and make my 10 gallon a guppy only tank. I have three pregnant females and I was hoping to try to raise their fry. How many guppies can I safely put in a 10 gallon tank? Again I am familiar with the 1 inch per gallon rule but I have seen many guppies (10+) in much smaller confines than a 10 gallon tank and I have also heard an extreme case where someone had nearly 100 in a 10 gallon (I have no intentions of coming close to that).

Thanks for your help.
With three pregnant female guppies ,assuming that water suits their efforts,, You could easily have upwards of sixty fish in the ten gallon tank within the next month and the population will increase rather quickly for it is what guppies do.
I have found that guppies do better with warmer temps than the danios would appreciate. I keep guppies at 80 degrees and I keep long finned danios at around 75 degrees.
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:40 AM   #14
 
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STOCKING: I don't usually count my work horses. i.e. cleaner fish. Yes, they have a bio load that has to be accounted for but they are part of the system. If you would like groups and a variety then plan on stocking your tank VERY slowly and monitoring it with regular testing. Its a balancing act and not as much fun as throwing a bunch of fish together but you might be surprised at the sheer amount and variety you can achieve if you go slow and stock your tank based on it's needs.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:01 PM   #15
 
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[quote=Fishingtons;305610]Thanks for all the responses everyone. Here are my current water conditions:


Nitrates, Chlorine: 0

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I dont get it.

If you're worried about stocking, you need to test ammonia and nitrites. That will help tell you if you have a good balance or not.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:44 PM   #16
 
Is this a bare tank, what is the filtration used?
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:37 PM   #17
 
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Here's what I would do...

Move everything SLOWLY into the 29-gallon. Use the 10-gallon to raise the fry. Add some guppy grass to it.

Stop using salt.

Get 3 more corys, and 3 more female guppies.

Enjoy!
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:06 AM   #18
 
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STOCKING: I don't usually count my work horses. i.e. cleaner fish. Yes, they have a bio load that has to be accounted for but they are part of the system. If you would like groups and a variety then plan on stocking your tank VERY slowly and monitoring it with regular testing. Its a balancing act and not as much fun as throwing a bunch of fish together but you might be surprised at the sheer amount and variety you can achieve if you go slow and stock your tank based on it's needs.
Hmm algae-eating fish usually come with a substantial bio-load. Bristlenose plecos seem to produce three or four times the amount of waste of a fish of equal size, for example. If anything, "work horses" should count extra against the bioload and for that reason, they should really only be added if you like the fish rather than with expectations of them reducing the load on the tank and the amount of work you'll have to do to maintain it as a result.
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:19 PM   #19
 
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Hmm algae-eating fish usually come with a substantial bio-load. Bristlenose plecos seem to produce three or four times the amount of waste of a fish of equal size, for example. If anything, "work horses" should count extra against the bioload and for that reason, they should really only be added if you like the fish rather than with expectations of them reducing the load on the tank and the amount of work you'll have to do to maintain it as a result.
I would never put a bristle nose pleco in a ten gallon tank. They get too big for that. I was referring to the various kinds of cory and catfish that stay below two inches. If I'm not mistaken their bioload would the equivalent of a same size tetra or like sized fish that is not actively or quickly growing.

What I said, is I do not count them in my "inch count" but I also said they have to be accounted for. Which means bioloads. At a certain point extra filtration, plants and all that cannot compensate the extra fish. But a better filtration system can allow for a few extra "inches" to be tacked onto the standard "inch rule". Three cory and six guppy is a sustainable bioload for a ten gallon tank. Assuming they have fry, they could very easy throw off that balance, but as others have said, short term is doable. Keeping the ten gallon as a strictly fry tank with the intention of releasing them to the larger tank later, assuming that tank can handle the load is also a practical plan.

Its just about maintenance and careful balancing.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:00 AM   #20
 
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also, ottos woudl fit that tank nicely. i agree with everything angel has said so far, and everone else. ditch the salt please.
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