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Old 09-21-2010, 03:25 PM   #21
 
Thank you everyone for all of your responses.

We do love the corydora catfish. Our plan has always been to have 3. We didn't just get them for algae. They are just neat little fish. We are concerned about our one corydora that is left. She seems healthy, but I wonder how stressed she is going to be without another one. We are reluctant to add any fish right now because of the difficulty we are having. I hate having them die.


I will immediately stop using the Algaefix since many of you have mentioned it is not good. We started using it this summer because when we add fresh water after a partial water change, we see a lot of algae particles floating around. I was worried it would hurt the fish. I think I will try turning the light off more.

I have been reading and researching, but much of the information that I find it contradictory so it is a little frustrating for a beginner. I really don't want my daughter to have to give up her tank. We all enjoy it. It is just upsetting to see the fish die. Before the problems started, we had gone 3-4 months without losing one.


Thanks again,

Suzanne
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:46 PM   #22
 
The best way to be successful at fish-keeping is experience. This forum does an exceptional job at imparting the experience of individuals for the masses to read and learn from. It really helps mitigate the frustration at first.. Dont be discouraged, it will get easier.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:12 PM   #23
 
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sometimes all in one tanks just arent that good.easy yes.but don't be discouraged even we have problems with our tanks.it's a trial and error thing.something that has to be experienced by every fish keeper
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:15 PM   #24
 
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I'm not sure how the filter thing went off on such a tangeant, You're doing the right thing not touching the biowheel.

As for the disposable filter, many tanks have those now days. If you don't have plants, then changing it regularly is a good idea.

If/when you decide to get some plants, then you won't need to replace the carbon anymore.


That brown algae in the filter is normal- I have tons. I've never seen it come out of the filter though... Maybe there was a temperature difference that killed it and made it fall apart?

I have a whisper HOB filter, but it sounds similiar only without the biowheel... I haven't replaced my filter pad in 7 months. Of course you should replace it until you get plants.

Your light should really be on a timer for the fishes well-being so the days and nights are regular... Do you have one?

Your fish deaths might just be from not having a quarantine procedure. I agree that you need to get another couple cories and danios to make them more comfortable, but you might have some kind of contagious illness. I would wait about 6-8 weeks, and make sure nothing else dies...
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:39 PM   #25
 
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I have been reading and researching, but much of the information that I find it contradictory so it is a little frustrating for a beginner. I really don't want my daughter to have to give up her tank. We all enjoy it. It is just upsetting to see the fish die. Before the problems started, we had gone 3-4 months without losing one.


Thanks again,

Suzanne
Oh Heaven's I hear you there. I was so confused in the beginning I too was ready to say "forget it" with the whole idea of fish. I am much happier now. I learned so much on this forum and am very thankful to many of the members here who willingly share their years of experience with the newbies.

I agree with waiting a few weeks now to see that everything is alright before adding any more fish. When all looks good, then go ahead and add a few more Cory's. One thing that I noticed about Corie's is that they are EXTREMELY sensitive to temperature. At least the Pepper Cories, like I have. When I filled my tank, after a water change, the temperature was slightly warmer then the normal 78 that I keep it. The Cories started swimming wildly around the tank, up and down the glass and swimming across the top of the water. I noticed the temp was at 80 degrees so I slowly added cooler water. Once the temp hit 78, they were back to their normal selves. I don't know if that is an issue for you but it is a thought.

The other thing was I noticed talk about changing the cartridge in your filter. I was changing the filter bi-weekly on my HOB filter as well since that is what it said. When I started talking to some real fish savvy people they all said the same thing. That is not needed. You can basically use the filter until the floss wears out. You should only clean it bi-weekly or as needed by rinsing it in the water change water, not tap water. Again, food for thought. The filter company says to change it so regularly so they can sell filters. I went for many months not changing the filter and my water remained crystal clear and the fish healthy. I do continue the weekly partial water changes though, as I believe the fish need fresh water to swim in regardless of which filter you use or how often a filter is changed.

Welcome to the forum. I hope things go well for your daughter's fish. It is so sad to lose them. They are worth the efforts though and I hope you can work out your issues.

I vote for live plants too, It was another new experience I tried and have been so happy I did. It is so nice for the fish as I believe the quality of water is easier to maintain, and it looks so nice. Again, just a thought.
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:04 PM   #26
 
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In my experience (while that may not be much), it is fairly easy to keep any kind of fish, as long as they don't have any special feeding requirements like live food only. The key is to have the right combination. When I had my 2 black ghost knifes and 2 plecos in a 10 gallon tank, the plecos ate what the BGKs didn't eat, and all of the fish were about as happy as they could be in a 10 gallon. At the end of their stay in the 10 gallon (and no they didn't die, just got moved to the 29) I got careless and skipped water changes. The fish were still fine. As long as you have a good "food chain" going, your aquarium will be successful. In mine, the BGKs were the first to eat, then the plecos (but they did have their own separate food just for them), then the bacteria in the substrate. The last step, the bacteria, is something you have to have, so you should (if you don't have any fish in the tank right now, I haven't read every part of every post in this thread) put a ton of fish food in the water. While this seems counterproductive, it will give the bacteria food to begin their colonies. There should be an ammonia spike, then nitrite spike, then nitrate spike. Change the water when you get a nitrate spike. Do not change the filter at all during this time. I know you've probably already heard that a million times, but I think the only part where you went wrong was when you changed the filter while the tank was cycling (which I'm assuming you did). Try again, don't use any artificial "boosters" like Prime, and don't use any special filter media to take out nitrites or nitrates. You should never have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, and 0 nitrates. You should have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, and n (a number) nitrates, if the tank is cycled. The important thing here is to start over and BE SURE the tank is cycled before adding fish. Good luck with your tank!
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:29 PM   #27
 
Thank you everyone for your help. I have one question. I was getting ready to re-do the test for nitrates. I re-read the instructions. My kit says the test is for a freshwater aquarium with salt added. I haven't put any salt in our aquarium. Could the lack of salt skew the results? Do I need another nitrate kit or what would you recommend?


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Old 09-22-2010, 06:47 PM   #28
 
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Thank you everyone for your help. I have one question. I was getting ready to re-do the test for nitrates. I re-read the instructions. My kit says the test is for a freshwater aquarium with salt added. I haven't put any salt in our aquarium. Could the lack of salt skew the results? Do I need another nitrate kit or what would you recommend?


thank you

Suzanne
From earlier in this thread, you have the API test kit (liquid), which is what I have. I just read the Nitrate blurb and it makes no mention of salt. The kit works in freshwater or saltwater, at least mine does, so it shouldn't matter. I have two colour charts in the kit, one for fresh and one for salt.

Please don't put salt in your aquarium, you will be starting a whole new problem.

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Old 09-22-2010, 07:01 PM   #29
 
Yes, I have the liquid API Freshwater Master Test Kit. Straight from the manual it says -

"The freshwater nitrate test color chart is the appropriate chart to use for testing freshwater aquariums to which salt has been added."


I knew from everything I read before we got our aquarium, you really should put salt into it. The information in the instructions is confusing me. I re-tested again for nitrates and the color was still more yellow than light orange.

I think I will go ahead and take a water sample to the pet store, but I would also like to know if my test kit is accurate.

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Old 09-22-2010, 08:13 PM   #30
 
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Yes, I have the liquid API Freshwater Master Test Kit. Straight from the manual it says -

"The freshwater nitrate test color chart is the appropriate chart to use for testing freshwater aquariums to which salt has been added."


I knew from everything I read before we got our aquarium, you really should put salt into it. The information in the instructions is confusing me. I re-tested again for nitrates and the color was still more yellow than light orange.

I think I will go ahead and take a water sample to the pet store, but I would also like to know if my test kit is accurate.

thank you
Let's see if anyone else has that version of the kit. It may be that the test works in both fresh and salt (as mine does) and that is their way of indicating it, strange though it is.

On the use of salt, I do not recommend that, ever. It does more harm than good.
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