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post #1 of 16 Old 02-07-2013, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up Opinions on the design please

Firstly a big thankyou to Titan who suggested the programme

Here is a design for my stand for a 100gal aquarium. Its going to incorporate a QT and hospital tank and will be the focal point of my living room. The stand itself will only be sanded and have a clear stain, I love the look of wood, not veneer, it kinda takes something away.

Main frame is 4" x 2" with hidden supports, the top is enclosed slightly but still offers a large viewing area on 3 sides.

The aquarium itself is going to be freshwater tropical, heavily planted and the hardscape will be a mixture of limestone and bogwood/mopani root or sumartran driftwood.

Please give me your most honest of opinions............
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post #2 of 16 Old 02-07-2013, 05:23 PM
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limestone will mess with your water parameters, unless you are looking for harder water you might want to go with a different type of rock.
Slate might look nice.
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post #3 of 16 Old 02-07-2013, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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My waters pretty hard already, i want to try and get the "cliff" face type of look, thanks for the info on the limestone tho.

ph 7.2, kh 10, gh 16

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My waters pretty hard already, i want to try and get the "cliff" face type of look, thanks for the info on the limestone tho.

ph 7.2, kh 10, gh 16
You said heavily planted, that seems to be as elusive a number as "pretty hard water". If it is heavily planted then the plants may offset the limestone if your fish load is on the lower side, another seemingly elusive quantification, due to the plants consuming the CaCO3 for the carbon instead of the CO2. That seems to be the way it works anyway.

Personal preference: I like the clear glass corners, looks cleaner than a wood assembly to me, otherwise it looks like a really great setup. Good plan, workable.

Don't forget that you'll still need a glass top on the tank to keep wood damage down from condensation.

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Total years fish keeping experience: 7 months, can't start counting in years for a while yet.

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You said heavily planted, that seems to be as elusive a number as "pretty hard water". If it is heavily planted then the plants may offset the limestone if your fish load is on the lower side, another seemingly elusive quantification, due to the plants consuming the CaCO3 for the carbon instead of the CO2. That seems to be the way it works anyway.

Personal preference: I like the clear glass corners, looks cleaner than a wood assembly to me, otherwise it looks like a really great setup. Good plan, workable.

Don't forget that you'll still need a glass top on the tank to keep wood damage down from condensation.

Jeff.
Sorry Jeff, pretty hard water followed by the perameters isnt elusive. Very heavily planted because its still in the planning stage, the design is mainly for my stepfather as hes going to build it( retired carpenter). I cant give exact numbers or types of plants unil i see the hardscape forming. As you lseem to want things accurate then its evaporation not condensation

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Sorry Jeff, pretty hard water followed by the perameters isnt elusive. Very heavily planted because its still in the planning stage, the design is mainly for my stepfather as hes going to build it( retired carpenter). I cant give exact numbers or types of plants unil i see the hardscape forming. As you lseem to want things accurate then its evaporation not condensation


I was making a general point about most peoples’ quantification of hard by using the generic "pretty hard"... yours weren’t elusive, but “heavily planted” means different things to different folks. I thought mine was heavily planted but I have since changed what that means to me.

Yah, I get carried away.... I should relax my grip... but....resisting.....resisting....

Oh damn.... It's not the evaporation that causes the damage, it's only when the water vapour comes out of the air and condensates on the surfaces that the damage occurs. If it evaporated and there was air flow there would be evaporation and no condensation and no damage.


Sorry, you baited me on that one


Regardless of my personal preferences or overly anal tendencies, that design does look like it will turn out to be one fine tank stand. Make sure you get some progress pics up.


One design question though, it’s not clear if the facing at the top of the QT and hospital tanks opens for access or is removable... I assume that it does or is.


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Total years fish keeping experience: 7 months, can't start counting in years for a while yet.

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JDM i was only yanking your chain! Couldnt resist it really.

The panel in front of the 2nd tank will actually be a door for access, as will the panel on the front left and side left. Plan on having those tasty little push clips on all including the hood. One push and it pops open, dont want handles.

Also with the hood im planning on having 2 hydrolic type rams ( car boot style) so when you push down to open it opens by itself!

The top of the tank will be covered, and the entire inside of the hood will have a reflective film ( not decided what yet) covering it to minimise the amount of light lost, even with the reflectors that the tube holders have you still lose on light.

The rear of the stand will be completely open with extra braces in place, there are a few measurements and minor tweaks to be made but the stand as a whole will look the same.

Thankyou for your input tho it is appriciated

Il rephrase heavily planted to alot of plants hehe

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post #8 of 16 Old 02-08-2013, 08:54 AM
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JDM i was only yanking your chain! Couldnt resist it really.
I figured.

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The panel in front of the 2nd tank will actually be a door for access, as will the panel on the front left and side left. Plan on having those tasty little push clips on all including the hood. One push and it pops open, dont want handles.

Also with the hood im planning on having 2 hydrolic type rams ( car boot style) so when you push down to open it opens by itself!

The top of the tank will be covered, and the entire inside of the hood will have a reflective film ( not decided what yet) covering it to minimise the amount of light lost, even with the reflectors that the tube holders have you still lose on light.

Il rephrase heavily planted to alot of plants hehe
Nice, sounds like you've got it all dialed in.

I didn't pay attention that you were in the UK until you said "car boot style". Just sounded funny.

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Total years fish keeping experience: 7 months, can't start counting in years for a while yet.

The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

Small scale nitrogen cycle with a jar, water and fish food; no substrate, filter etc
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post #9 of 16 Old 02-08-2013, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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Haha i should have said car trunk i guess, i also keep saying the uk volume its actually 120gal u.s

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Haha i should have said car trunk i guess, i also keep saying the uk volume its actually 120gal u.s
We in Canada might call those "demi-gallons".

Jeff.


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