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post #1 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation OMG!! possible disaster on the cards....might need your help.

I just can't believe it!

I'm sitting in the living room, quite near the fish tank and I hear this drip..drip..drip, so I investigate and theres water dripping from the stand....

It was only a bit, and upon further investigation there seems to be a bead of water all around the base of the tank between the bottom of the tank, and the surface of the stand that is sits on. Stand and the tank came together and are part of a set.

The tank is a Juwel Rekord 800, 29g.

This is the only tank I have, If it has got a tiny leak, I am sure it must be tiny if there is a leak otherwise there would be a noticeable amount of water escaping, WHAT DO I DO????????

I don't have a quarantine tank, and the filter system is built into the tank so I couldn't take the fish out and keep them in a bucket with the filter and heater in there as an extreme measure... I could probably put the heater in, but it would be unprotected.

Its 8.30pm and nowhere would be open, the LFS I got the tank from might be open tomorrow if I am lucky as its a bank holiday in the UK, I am sure the tanks are warranted for leaks? but what is the procedure if I have a leak, and they agree to provide me with another tank??

Do I just catch the fish and keep them in a container, bucket or something, then just scoop out all the gravel and move the plants, and filter material etc and then refill? and then just put the fish in the new one? URGHHHH hope it doesn't come to that.....

Although could be a good time to switch the substrate! I want dark substrate, but anyway that is by the by... what a nightmare.

I have checked the water level so I will keep an eye on it to see if it goes down at all...

any advice would be much appreciated.

The other day I was performing my water change and one of my cats jumped to go on top of the tank, and the lid was open and he partially went int the tank! thats both cats that have done that now!! and it splashed water everywhere, I in my anger and panic let the hose come out of the bucket, and the syphoned water went everywhere, I am wondering if it is water just sitting under the tank, but why if it is would it just start dripping out?

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post #2 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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Don't everyone jump at once eh!! haha,

Anyway,

I think I may have figured out the problem! In my tank, the filter and heater is housed inside a box altogether in the corner. the outflow pipe is near the top, it is movable so you can angle it whichever way you like. I usually have it pointed at the surface, to create movement on the surface, I have had it pointing in to the tank also, but I like a little movement so recently it is pointing up.

At my last water change I took out one of the two big filter sponges and give it a really good squashing in the old tank water, a ton of stuff came out so it must of been quite clogged and slowing the flow rate of water through the filter. I was still getting water appearing between the stand top and the bottom of the tank, I was thinking there was a small leak in one bottom corner maybe? but I was checking the water level to see if it had gone down at all, which it hadn't. But I noticed the outflow water was rising up and just ever so slightly breaching the back top edge of the tank, SOOOOO I am thinking, no HOPING that the water has been leaking over the back edge and collecting under the tank somehow, and its just starting to get so much its leaking out.

I'll keep you posted, all of you who checked the thread but didn't offer any advice

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post #3 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 03:50 PM
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If it were me..... Keep an eye on the level to see if it is actually leaking or if it is indeed just some water left over from your spill. If it is leaking, I would use some storage totes, usually about 18G. Use a heater and air stone. Althougg this is short term is should give you a couple days. Make sure you cover the tote with either a lid or a towel as I have had fish jump out before..

GOOD LUCK, hope its not a leak...
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If it were me..... Keep an eye on the level to see if it is actually leaking or if it is indeed just some water left over from your spill. If it is leaking, I would use some storage totes, usually about 18G. Use a heater and air stone. Althougg this is short term is should give you a couple days. Make sure you cover the tote with either a lid or a towel as I have had fish jump out before..

GOOD LUCK, hope its not a leak...
Why thank you,

Appreciate you answering my thread! I think.......if it were a leak, it would be noticeable no? the water level hasn't gone down noticeably since I first saw the water dripping, and as I added in my second post I have since noticed that my filter outflow was breaching the back top edge of the tank, so its more than likely the cause. it would be weird for a 5/6month old brand new tank to suddenly spring a leak. I know it happens, but if it was leaking it would be LEAKING. which it isn't, so fingers crossed.

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Do I just catch the fish and keep them in a container, bucket or something, then just scoop out all the gravel and move the plants, and filter material etc and then refill? and then just put the fish in the new one? URGHHHH hope it doesn't come to that.....
Yup, that's exactly what you do. It's not as big of a hassle as it seems . IMO that's the best case scenario, that they give you a new one and you make the switch.

Have you found the leak?

There are slow leaks - it's not always a water gushing scenario.

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post #6 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 07:45 PM
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Yikes!!! I hope it is scenario #2. I guess you'll know for sure in the morning.

Crossing fingers for you.

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post #7 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 09:27 PM
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A good way to keep an eye on water levels is to use a dry-erase marker and mark where the water line is. If you can see a difference in a day or so that isn't related to evaporation, it's a leak. I had this happen to me once. It was actually very similar to your leak. I could see beads of water on the black base of the aquarium. I must have cracked the tank while moving it. That was not a happy week for me. Let's hope you don't have to go through that.

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post #8 of 15 Old 06-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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good luck.
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post #9 of 15 Old 06-04-2012, 12:37 AM
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Was it a leak? Or an over flow? Good luck either way!

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post #10 of 15 Old 06-04-2012, 03:10 AM Thread Starter
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UPDATE....

Thanks for your concern guys, appreciate it!

Doesn't look like a leak, the water level hasn't gone down. SO it must have been scenario 2! I think it was a combination of having the water level just over the max water line, and the power of the filter after cleaning the sponges, the flow from the filter pipe was raising up a couple of cm above the water line, and this torrent of water was EXTREMELY close to the top of the tank, I could actually see it breaching the top whilst watching it... this must have been the cause, I couldn't noticeably see or feel the water running down the back of the tank, but it must of been somehow. Ill keep a beady eye on things.

PHEW.............. I wasn't looking forward to trying to get a new tank, and transferring the contents from one to another! urghhhhh, althoughI could of changed my substrate!! which is something I really want to do! oh well.

cheer everyone x

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