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post #31 of 45 Old 05-12-2011, 07:28 PM
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That's not too bad! I'll definitely be looking into it. A question about power filters. I was looking at an AquaClear with the variable flow control. If I was to use a very small one with the flow turned down and no activated charcoal, would that be a possible alternative?
While they are good filters, i do not like HOB (hang on back) in planted tanks. There is too much water movement and surface disturbance. Other thing is, in a power outage they can go dry and burn out.

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post #32 of 45 Old 05-13-2011, 02:20 AM Thread Starter
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If you have the money, an enriched substrate couldn't hurt...

By no means should you think it's a requirement though. (just my two cents.)

I'd definately go with the flame tetra since they're a bit smaller. When you plant the tank, I'd add 6 tetras, wait two weeks, add 6 more, wait, then the cories, wait, then the rams...
I have decided to go with the flame tetras...actually going to go with a 20 gallon long. Was looking at the 29. but it was a little bigger than I expected, and I really liked the look of the 20 gallon. Should I cut back on the stocking due to the smaller tank size?
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That's the trouble with these long threads, we forget what came at the beginning.

Donna mentioned Eco-Complete, and I recommended Flourite instead because it is less sharp and with corys (also mentioned) that's better.
that's why I decided to go with the Flourite...learning alot here!
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I have decided to go with the flame tetras...actually going to go with a 20 gallon long. Was looking at the 29. but it was a little bigger than I expected, and I really liked the look of the 20 gallon. Should I cut back on the stocking due to the smaller tank size?
Ironically, as the 20 long and the 29 have the same surface area, there is not much difference when it comes to stocking. However, internal space still has to be considered, in terms of what the fish species needs.

I've forgotten what was mentioned for stocking, but as a general guide for a 20L I would say five corys, a group of 7 of one of the medium tetra (Flame are "medium" to me), and there is room for something else such as a group (7-8) of surface hatchetfish (one of the Carnegiella species which are smaller), or a smallish catfish like a Whiptail Catfish or Farlowella (Twig Catfish) for interest.

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Ironically, as the 20 long and the 29 have the same surface area, there is not much difference when it comes to stocking. However, internal space still has to be considered, in terms of what the fish species needs.

I've forgotten what was mentioned for stocking, but as a general guide for a 20L I would say five corys, a group of 7 of one of the medium tetra (Flame are "medium" to me), and there is room for something else such as a group (7-8) of surface hatchetfish (one of the Carnegiella species which are smaller), or a smallish catfish like a Whiptail Catfish or Farlowella (Twig Catfish) for interest.

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In the 29 I was going to put 12 flame tetra, 5 cory's and a pair of bolivian rams.
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In the 29 I was going to put 12 flame tetra, 5 cory's and a pair of bolivian rams.
I would reduce the Flames to 8 or maybe 9. When they and the Rams attain their mature sizes it will be crowded mid-water, which is why I mentined surface or anotther substrate fish previously, to spread out the territories.

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I would reduce the Flames to 8 or maybe 9. When they and the Rams attain their mature sizes it will be crowded mid-water, which is why I mentined surface or anotther substrate fish previously, to spread out the territories.

I was thinking about adding some hatchets, just wasn't sure if I should with the smaller tank, but now I think I will!...just don't know how many...
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38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




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Yes. But decide which species, some are larger than others. I myself prefer the species in Carnegiella because they are smaller. The popular marble hatchetfish occurs in this genus, Carnegiella strigata. And the Black-winged hatchetfish, Carnegiella marthae, is lovely. The third in this genus, the pygmy hatchetfish, is quite delicate. With the marble or black-wing, 7-8 would be fine. But then I would have 7-8 Flame Tetra. And the Bolivians. And the corys (5). With plants this would be fine. And hatchets need some floating plants.

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good luck!

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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