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Not sure which stocking option to go for...
Old 04-30-2013, 06:04 AM   #11
 
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I'll offer some general comments on some of the fish mentioned.

This is not a "large" tank, so a group of rainbow cichlids [presumably this is the species Herotilapia multispinosa] would just about fill it. A group of six minimum, but each must have a good cave as its own. Or a pair.

Cichlids are all fairly sedate fish with respect to their swimming activity. So upper fish that charge around the tank is not the best mix. And as you mention, they tend to remain in the lower third of the water, so mixing species can be difficult as they are all vying for the same area.

I tend to accept that gourami and cichlids should not be mixed, due to their inherent similarities respecting territories.

If your GH is 46 mg/l, which equates to 46 ppm, that is 2.5 dGH which is very soft. Bear this in mind; taking the two rainbowfish mentioned as an example, the Boesman would not fare well in this, but the Praecox would be OK. You can check this sort of info in our profiles.

Byron.
You are most certainly right when you say that my tank is not a large one!... That is one of the things I'm having the most difficulty with!
I know that I want a community tank, preferably with 3 different types of fish... but all of the fish I like need to be in schools of a reasonable size, and when I'm trying to figure out what fish are compatible with others, water parameters and which ones I like the look of when put together, etc, I either find that I don't have enough room or that something just doesn't quite suit, lol!
So now I'm starting to accept that with this tank I'm probably not going to have my ideal stocking setup (which is sucky, but still cool! )... so hopefully in future I'll be able to get a larger tank (and by larger I mean ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE! ) and will be able to be a bit more choosy later on.

For now I'm thinking along the lines of having a species only tank (as having only 2 kind of fish types will probably end up bugging me because I'll be like "if only I had that one other type of fish I was wanting..." *sigh* ).
So now I've decided to do this, I'm really only looking into really colourful fish, preferably "larger" fish (so roughly 10cm / 4" or bigger when fully grown) and am thinking about:
6 Rainbow cichlids (would I be able to keep them in a single sex group? It's just I read that they can have up to 100 fry at a time ... I'm trying to find info online about this, but there's been nothing so far.)
10 Tiger barbs
10 Guppies
10 Mollies
10 Red wag platies

Can anyone think of any other type of fish that would do well in a species only tank for beginners?
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:49 AM   #12
 
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You are most certainly right when you say that my tank is not a large one!... That is one of the things I'm having the most difficulty with!
I know that I want a community tank, preferably with 3 different types of fish... but all of the fish I like need to be in schools of a reasonable size, and when I'm trying to figure out what fish are compatible with others, water parameters and which ones I like the look of when put together, etc, I either find that I don't have enough room or that something just doesn't quite suit, lol!
So now I'm starting to accept that with this tank I'm probably not going to have my ideal stocking setup (which is sucky, but still cool! )... so hopefully in future I'll be able to get a larger tank (and by larger I mean ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE! ) and will be able to be a bit more choosy later on.

For now I'm thinking along the lines of having a species only tank (as having only 2 kind of fish types will probably end up bugging me because I'll be like "if only I had that one other type of fish I was wanting..." *sigh* ).
So now I've decided to do this, I'm really only looking into really colourful fish, preferably "larger" fish (so roughly 10cm / 4" or bigger when fully grown) and am thinking about:
6 Rainbow cichlids (would I be able to keep them in a single sex group? It's just I read that they can have up to 100 fry at a time ... I'm trying to find info online about this, but there's been nothing so far.)
10 Tiger barbs
10 Guppies
10 Mollies
10 Red wag platies

Can anyone think of any other type of fish that would do well in a species only tank for beginners?
The first thing that stands out here has to do with water parameters. You have very soft water (if former number is accurate), so forget any livebearers. If you read our profiles, it notes they must have hard water, meaning moderate hardness or harder. They will not last otherwise. So that means no molly, no platy, and no guppy; the latter these days is so inbred that it might manage in slightly softer water than the other livebearers, but as this is still contrary to the fish's design I would not risk it.

Tiger Barb are not fish to go with any sedate fish, and cichlids are sedate. Read the profile.

The Rainbow Cichlid I have not personally kept, and it is not a fish I know much about, but all cichlid males are territorial and this may or may not be trouble if only males are in the tank. A mix would allow for more natural behaviours, and sources seem to be in agreement that a small group in a largish tank is OK, if plenty of caves are provided.

Given your very soft water, look at the species in characins, cyprinids, anabantids, catfish in the profiles. Each profile has one or more photos so you can see what the fish look like. Minimum numbers and minimum tank sizes, along with compatibility issues are mentioned.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:58 AM   #14
 
Thanks, having those fish species names helped a lot!

However I've been looking into both kribensis and convict cichlids, and was thinking of maybe having a breeding pair of one or the other, and selling/giving away the fry? - From what I've read, the kribs would be fine in my water parameters, but if I decided to go with the convicts I'd have to use something to make my water a bit more harder (which I've been doing some research on).
I also have at least 4 LFS in my area (that I'm aware of), so I probably won't have any trouble getting rid of the multitudes of fry.

I really like the look of both of these fish (especially the convicts), but I've been reading that they might be a bit shy without some dither fish (which would probably end up being some kind of tetra... I haven't really thought about it (let alone looked into it yet) though).
My only concerns are, that considering that both of these fish are pretty aggressive during spawning (which is pretty much always, as they breed like rabbits!), would it be best to get the kribs, as their minimum tank size for a pair is 76L/20g, which means that they'll have plenty of space to have their own territory, as well as give the other dither fish somewhere else to go without being too stressed out?
Overall I'd prefer to have the convicts, but if they'd shy away all of the time because there aren't any dither fish, then I don't think I'd enjoy having them too much.

I'd really love to have the rainbows but I've read that they also breed like rabbits with a large spawning of fry, and I don't think I could manage getting rid of 4 pair's (so 6 fish) worth!

... And then of course I think back to my original fish choices, and I realize that with the new information I've found about how to change your water hardness, I could probably end up getting some of my original fish choices!
So many wonderful aquarium/fish possibilities , so little tank space to fit them into, lol!
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